Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

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Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by yak66 » 13 Jun 2019 17:07

does anyone know the Linn Sondek with SME 3009?
What do you think?
Real comparisons between Sme 3009 and Ittok?
I would like to add a Shure M75 cartridge
thank you
PS. my budget is limited, I'm not interested in the latest decks
I found a 1990 LP12 with SME

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by jackie » 13 Jun 2019 21:09

I own this combination, it is fantastic. Purists think the Linn needs a different tonearm but I beg to differ. A better cartridge would be good if you afford one.

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by nat » 13 Jun 2019 21:29

That's a fine combination, particularly if it is at an affordable price. There are certainly many better cartridges, but tastes differ, and the M75 may be just the ticket for your ears - I assume you have some reason for choosing it. Even if you change your mind later, you won't be out very much money, and since there are people who like the cartridge, you could probably sell it if you didn't want to keep it.

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by theclosetguy » 14 Jun 2019 00:03

Hi
Someone needs to explain to me so I can finally understand the need for a cheap cartridge on an expensive Turntable.
The Linn is a $500 to $1500 of higher value turntable. The SME 3009 is a $500 to $1500 value tonearm. Value is dependent on which Models and upgrades we are looking at. So anywhere from $1000 to $3000 and above Combination. So why would you use a $75.00 cartridge? Why such a cheap cartridge. Why would you not use a cartridge that serves justice to this set up?
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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by Chiltern » 14 Jun 2019 00:51

Mike M

Your prices may well be current but not all of us would be able to justify such amounts. I've had most of my turntables for many years and with the exception of one or two, they have not cost much money and that pleases me.

Decks were inexpensive here in the UK 20 years ago, one of my LP12's cost £5, the SME a further £5 and it is currently fitted with a Shure M97xe bought from the US when you could get 3 for $100 (I see that I've still one unopened), so my cartridge has a higher value to me than the deck/arm.

The Shure sounds fine and the Linn/SME looks good, a classic, I am happy to be still using the M75 & V15 types on different machines, they do not all (currently have 25 decks) justify exotic cartridges.

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by yak66 » 14 Jun 2019 08:59

The Shure M75 is temporary, I own many of them.
Certainly Linn / SME wants a better cartridge.
This is not a problem.
I would like to know if the LINN / SME3009 is good
Comparison between LINN-SME vs LINN-ITTOK is very interesting to me: This is what I would like to know
THANK YOU

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by simonineaston » 14 Jun 2019 10:13

Someone needs to explain to me so I can finally understand the need for a cheap cartridge on an expensive Turntable.
I'll have a go! Some years ago, I bought an SME model 10, which to me, is an expensive turntable and "is better than" most of the arms and cartridges I play with. My justification for the expense of the SME deck was as follows: It will last for decades - the build quality is first class. It is very plugNplay - there is little to adjust, which is to my taste. It has a small form factor, being barely larger than a 12" LP - again, this is to my taste. And lastly, as a factor in my signal path, I can more-or-less ignore it. It just sits there, bringing out the best of any arm and cartridge I put on it. Job done. I don't see myself getting rid of it. Cartridges come and go. I'm enjoying vintage mass produced Shures at the mo'.
How's that sound?

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by nat » 14 Jun 2019 22:13

Cartridges have distinct sounds. Some people like the sound of one cartridge, others like a different cartridge. Some people like the smoothness of a conical stylus, others like the detail of a more sophisticated stylus shape. Some cheap cartridges sound surprisingly good, and some expensive cartridges sound pretty dire.
Just to add to those comments - it is well worth listening to some of the older, higher tracking force cartridges from the 60s - I'm not entirely sure why this is, but often they have an immediacy and grunt that is reminiscent of Deccas, and can be beguiling. I've seen enough people commenting on the liveliness of the lower end Shures that I do not discount them as viable choices.
If you like a sound, why insist on paying vastly more?

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by yak66 » 21 Jun 2019 08:18

I read different stories

certainly the Linn arms are more compatible with the Linn system

perhaps (recently) the Linn system is seen "closed", "only Linn"
NO Linn = wrong

So Linn-Sondek-SME3009 is really a wrong project?
as someone writes

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by jackie » 21 Jun 2019 10:50

All I can tell you is my Linn/sme3009/AT95e sounds amazing, I would not swop it for anything else. Deep taut bass, good image, just sounds right. It is preCirkus though so I won't be able to comment on Cirkus decks as they change the original sound.

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by yak66 » 21 Jun 2019 11:27

Linn Sondek & SME 3009: the thing I read the most is:
"Everything becomes too slow, especially in the articulation of the middle bass where both are not good"

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Re: Linn Sondek with SME 3009?

Post by jackie » 21 Jun 2019 18:18

So it's who to believe

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