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CJDavey
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Advice for a novice

Post by CJDavey » 12 Jun 2019 07:47

I've just started getting into vinyl, and I'm on a budget. I'm using one of my parents old Derens radio turntables - I think the brand is Bush?

It seems to work just fine, but with me spending some money to build a record collection of my own, I'm wondering whether this is a system that is trustworthy or likely to do damage?

My choice right now is to either invest in a cheap new turntable (no more than £100), or continue to use this one and invest in some new speakers (it has some built in, they're ok but could be better)

Any advice?

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Re: Advice for a novice

Post by Pauw » 12 Jun 2019 09:26

Without more details I can only generalise....Bush didn't make higher end turntables and as such I believe that your table will play records fine. It will leave its mark on those that it plays and as such ......

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Re: Advice for a novice

Post by Solist » 12 Jun 2019 10:05

Welcome!

If you could post some pictures of the turntable, it would be easier to decide if your records are gonna get scratched.

You live in England, so you are a lucky b'stard when it comes to second hand options. :D Prices of the turntables went up, but you could still find a good deal if you take the time and search for it. For 100 pounds you could find a solid turntable and a pair of bookshelf speakers.

If you are willing to do some work on the turntable, look for manual or semi-manual turntables. They are the easiest to repair. If you tell us your location we can go through the listings in your area.

If you will need a budget preamp, the analogis easy phono is a good option, and it does not cost much.

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Re: Advice for a novice

Post by CJDavey » 12 Jun 2019 10:41

Solist wrote:
12 Jun 2019 10:05
Welcome!

If you could post some pictures of the turntable, it would be easier to decide if your records are gonna get scratched.

You live in England, so you are a lucky b'stard when it comes to second hand options. :D Prices of the turntables went up, but you could still find a good deal if you take the time and search for it. For 100 pounds you could find a solid turntable and a pair of bookshelf speakers.

If you are willing to do some work on the turntable, look for manual or semi-manual turntables. They are the easiest to repair. If you tell us your location we can go through the listings in your area.

If you will need a budget preamp, the analogis easy phono is a good option, and it does not cost much.
Thanks for the response! Here's some images of the exact one I have, which I found online:

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict ... -40750.jpg

https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTYwMF ... le-_57.jpg

I live in Manchester. Any further help would be massively appreciated!

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Re: Advice for a novice

Post by vinyl master » 12 Jun 2019 20:24

I don't think the Bush will "cut the mustard"...Anyone who tells you otherwise is feeding you "a load of codswallop"! :lol:

In any case, good places to check out in the UK include Gumtree, car boot sales, charity shops and the like...

Our friend Chris (cafe latte) was visiting Manchester recently, and I recommended a few record shops in the area to check out...Maybe you could also ask around at some of those places and see what's available... :-k Take a look at his thread here...

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... 6&t=111192

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Re: Advice for a novice

Post by vinyl master » 12 Jun 2019 21:37

That said, I did find this one for slightly more than your budget...

https://www.gumtree.com/p/record-player ... 1342650672

I'm not sure about this one, but it is within your budget and interesting...

https://www.gumtree.com/p/record-player ... 1342847754

Even the JVC here would be better than your Bush...

https://www.gumtree.com/p/record-player ... 1342677097

Of course, there are much more interesting Bushes out there, like this vintage one...

https://www.gumtree.com/p/record-player ... 1341064401

Our own Ghaasl has a similar one like this...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-PL-2 ... ctupt=true

There's a Technics here, for the budget minded audiophile...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technics-SL- ... SwvJFc8PLS

Other thoughts include this Dual...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUAL-CS-505- ... SwraNc~S5n

This Thorens "project"...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thorens-TD-1 ... SwMctdANne

Or this Pioneer here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-PL-5 ... SwhKVc9j1E

For a little more, there was this Pioneer, of which I have one myself! :D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-PL-1 ... Sw7ZRc7qEq

Saw these, too, within your budget...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-PS-212A ... ctupt=true
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GARRARD-86SB ... SwqYxc9nAU
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Connoisseur- ... SwBGBc5ZGp
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hitachi-HT32 ... SwGIFc0vGR
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/National-Pan ... SwBPRcWW6S
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hitachi-HT-3 ... SwF3VcfZx0
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TECHNICS-SL- ... SwXoJcq7JG

Just a few examples, but I'm sure there are more out there...

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Re: Advice for a novice

Post by JoeE SP9 » 12 Jun 2019 23:45

You guys are forgetting that a new TT will require an amplifier with a phono input and a pair of speakers. If the TT has a built in phono preamp a pair of powered speakers are all that is needed.

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