Older turntable recommendations - <£350

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Re: Older turntable recommendations - <£350

Post by Issuesman666 » 06 Jul 2019 18:46

Tom_Technics wrote:
06 Jul 2019 18:29
For a start, Tom has M3D's and not MK2's. Whilst the drive system of the 1700 is not as advanced as that of the 1200, it is considerably more reliable and, if it needed to be, compensated by the acoustic implications of the 1700's sprung design. IMO the 1200 MK2 etc's build, whilst very rugged, also makes for a more clinical, less open sound than that of the old sprung Technics decks. The 1200MK2 is bettered by the SL-1700 MK2 in terms of sonics imo. I have an SL-1610, the fully automatic version of the SL-1710 that Tom purchased, and I have no desire to upgrade at this point in time although I do have a 1300MKII pending refurbishment that I will likely upgrade to in the distant future. The MK1 1700/1600/1800 series is fantastic when the suspension is set up correctly and that's what makes all the difference.
I was trying to get the SL 1800 mk 2 but was unsuccessful. They are rare and I only want manual turntables.

However what you say is true if the suspension of his SL1700 mk1 is in top condition.

Sorry I mistook the M3D for the MK 2.

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Re: Older turntable recommendations - <£350

Post by lbls1 » 06 Jul 2019 19:09

I recommend Technics SL B2, or Dual 1200 series turntables for their automatic function and reliability.

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Re: Older turntable recommendations - <£350

Post by Tom_Technics » 06 Jul 2019 23:13

lbls1 wrote:
06 Jul 2019 19:09
I recommend Technics SL B2, or Dual 1200 series turntables for their automatic function and reliability.
The Technics SL-B2 was very low down in the Technics line up. The SL-1700 is considerably better.

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Re: Older turntable recommendations - <£350

Post by Romford_Tom » 06 Jul 2019 23:44

Tom_Technics wrote:
06 Jul 2019 18:29
For a start, Tom has M3D's and not MK2's. Whilst the drive system of the 1700 is not as advanced as that of the 1200, it is considerably more reliable and, if it needed to be, compensated by the acoustic implications of the 1700's sprung design. IMO the 1200 MK2 etc's build, whilst very rugged, also makes for a more clinical, less open sound than that of the old sprung Technics decks. The 1200MK2 is bettered by the SL-1700 MK2 in terms of sonics imo. I have an SL-1610, the fully automatic version of the SL-1710 that Tom purchased, and I have no desire to upgrade at this point in time although I do have a 1300MKII pending refurbishment that I will likely upgrade to in the distant future. The MK1 1700/1600/1800 series is fantastic when the suspension is set up correctly and that's what makes all the difference.
Thanks for the support, namesake brethren. The 1700 I've purchased has been completely stripped down, serviced and reassembled so hopefully will arrive in as close to 'mint' condition as a 40 year old turntable can rightfully be. I realise in pure specs it may be viewed as a backwards step from a 1210, however in the wider scheme of things it is simply more suitable for my current needs. I'll give a final verdict when it shows up. Curious how the epc-270c compares to a Goldring E3 too.

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Re: Older turntable recommendations - <£350

Post by Van_Isle » 07 Jul 2019 00:48

lbls1 wrote:
06 Jul 2019 19:09
I recommend Technics SL B2, or Dual 1200 series turntables for their automatic function and reliability.
Ha ha ... SL-B2 ... with their well-known spindle gears that crack and infamously weak motors. Got 2 of them here that are now just for parts. Even tried the 3d-printed spindle gears being sold on eBay ... they don't hold up, sorry to say. So far, far from reliable.

Duals are fine, as long they are serviced by someone with the proper knowledge / experience and with all the proper greases and have decent cartridge sleds. Unfortunately I've fallen victim to more than one table that's been butchered by a novice. But I'd personally rather have a 701 or a CS-5000 than a 1200 series.

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Re: Older turntable recommendations - <£350

Post by lbls1 » 08 Jul 2019 04:22

Yea the B2s have a bad rap, but they have been used heavily as DJ turntables, so I can think of worse units. Other than the Duals (I'm not really sold on the CS-5000, as its a lot of money for a belt drive, and its a bit clunky. It may be a good unit but that's my op.), one could try BIC, Philips or Pioneer as good vintage units to try.