What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by JaS » 11 Feb 2019 11:35

goatbreath wrote:
11 Feb 2019 10:15
I have a fully Upgraded RB250 and a Non modified one.
I've used loads of arms (Dynavector, Mission, Roksan, SME, Pierre Lurne, Technics, Audio Technica, Sumiko etc) but keep going back to Rega. They are cheap and sound good. If I was regularly changing cartridges I'd probably get another SME 309 or Dynavector DV505.

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by raphaelmabo » 11 Feb 2019 11:35

The Rega RB250 is a modest and good working arm. A Workhorse and a no frills design. It just works well. But there are certainly more advanced and interesting options out there with even better performance, for example the Funk Firm F5 tonearm. I would consider this one an upgrade.

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by JaS » 11 Feb 2019 12:18

raphaelmabo wrote:
11 Feb 2019 11:35
But there are certainly more advanced and interesting options out there with even better performance
No argument there, I just found that when I was between arms my RB300 seemed to fill in nicely, then one day I realised that my backup had become my main arm.

I still have a Tabrizz Zi and a Mission 774SM on a shelf, both of which have their strengths and weaknesses, and if I'm still listening to records when I retire (just 15-20 years to go!) I might grab an SME310 or a Breuer 5/6 :)

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by Beobloke » 11 Feb 2019 13:54

raphaelmabo wrote:
11 Feb 2019 11:35
The Rega RB250 is a modest and good working arm. A Workhorse and a no frills design. It just works well. But there are certainly more advanced and interesting options out there with even better performance,
I think this sums up my attitude to the RB250 perfectly. It's a fine performer and a bargiain at its price point, however I'd prefer to save a bit longer and have an RB300 instead, which I think sounds better.

And as to the whole modding one with new counterweights, stub, bearings, wiring etc. - life's too short...

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by hedgehog35 » 11 Feb 2019 15:38

retrofan wrote:
11 Feb 2019 04:46
Its a Rega!
Good to get incisive, well - argued posts on the forum!

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by andybeau » 11 Feb 2019 18:04

hedgehog35 wrote:
11 Feb 2019 15:38
retrofan wrote:
11 Feb 2019 04:46
Its a Rega!
Good to get incisive, well - argued posts on the forum!
It's a Rega hate thing from a people who usually have never heard one, :roll:

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by ripblade » 11 Feb 2019 19:20

Well, to each their own. I bought an RB250 nearly a decade ago when the hype declared it a giant killer. Once I had it set up in stock form I was in disbelief at how poor it was. Maybe mine was merely a bad sample, as the shell azimuth was also visibly off by several degrees. But, since it was now in my possession and paid for, I decided to try out the many aftermarket fixes, along with an invention of my own. With all the improvements it becomes a much better arm capable of nuance and dynamics. Without these, it is a dynamic-less midrange wonder....exactly as I had remembered it from back in the late '80s.

We all listen for different things, so I take no issue with anyone who likes these. But the giants can rest easy as there's no killing of any sort going on here.

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by farmstar72 » 20 Feb 2019 16:44

Bump.

It occurred to me that if the biggest design flaw is loose fitting bearings, that loading them would be the best way to deal with that issue. So, a heavy bodied DL103 with an aftermarket heavyweight seems like the best use for an RB250.

......or at least that's what I'll tell myself 😂

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by plastico » 15 Mar 2019 01:56

I agree with you on the bearings. In fact, I installed lead weights to load the bearings on my maxxed out RB300.
Cheers, Doug
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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by ripblade » 15 Mar 2019 02:15

Doug, how did you get those weights to stay in place? I've heard of this mod (long time ago...maybe even through you...) and bought the weights, but when I pulled one of the caps off I didn't see an easy way to fit the weight. Is it press fit, glued on, custom tooled, .... ? :-k

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by plastico » 15 Mar 2019 02:22

Each one was 11 grams, and I drilled them out to fit tight on the nuts and painted them black and super glued them in place. In fact, I still have the arm in the closet.
Cheers, Doug

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by ripblade » 15 Mar 2019 02:30

Wow, that was fast, thanks, Doug.! :D

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by plastico » 15 Mar 2019 03:03

Your welcome Rip.
Cheers, Doug

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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by james73_2008 » 15 Mar 2019 23:38

What a strange topic title.



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Re: What's wrong with the Rega RB250?

Post by hedgehog35 » 17 Mar 2019 19:12

farmstar72 wrote:
20 Feb 2019 16:44
Bump.

It occurred to me that if the biggest design flaw is loose fitting bearings, that loading them would be the best way to deal with that issue. So, a heavy bodied DL103 with an aftermarket heavyweight seems like the best use for an RB250.

......or at least that's what I'll tell myself 😂

Scott
Well, when I took my 18 year old RB300 to Johnnie Nilsen (owner of Audio Origami, and expert at upgrading Rega arms), he said the bearings were perfect and not worth upgrading - he's a very honest guy and could have told me anything to sell me some more 'upgrades'.
It seems an odd concept to apply extra load to a badly adjusted bearing system. I regularly service the wheel hub bearings on my bikes and I can't think why putting greater forces on a badly adjusted wheel hub would help matters.
I am unaware of any 'design flaw' in the Rega arm design, but I am sure Roy Gandy would be delighted to hear from you so you can point it out to him!