Yeah, I'd try...The seller has the power to say "No", too! The bargaining works both ways, you know! :wink: Still, I'd say "What is the best price you can give me?"...I always ask "Does it have a dust cover?"..."Is it scratched up?"..."Does it have a new belt or has the old one turned to sticky goo?"..."Has it been used in a long time?"..."Is it missing a cartridge or a headshell?", "Will I need a new stylus?", "Does it have it's steuerpimpel (if it's a Dual)?", etc. With receivers, the questions are things like "Is a fuse or a lamp burned out?", "Is it missing it's wooden case?" or "What about the tuner string?", etc.Spinner45 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018 17:24Haggling has always been around.vinyl master wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018 08:25My Crosley was one of the most expensive ones I own, and I don't even use it! I still kick myself for paying full price for it...That said, a well-serviced vintage model can be worth it, if you don't want the headaches...Of course, I also love to haggle (and if you can do it, why not??? I've been fairly successful at it, but I've always come away in a situation where both seller and I are happy...)...The thrill of finding quality for cheap is a reward unto itself, too, when I realize they're not gonna make these kinds of turntables anymore...
But also, consider this...
When a seller puts a reasonable price on a unit, being serviced, had parts replaced, new cartridge installed, isn't it an insult to that seller, to attempt to haggle?
a Dual 1241 for sale, no dust cover - $200.
New AT95 cartridge.
45 donut adapter.
New RCA cables.
Cleaned, lubed, adjusted, checked.
A Miracord/Realistic 46 - $200, no dustcover.
Tonearm head damaged, retrofitted with suitable replacement.
Pickering cartridge w/new stylus.
Has both multi/single spindles.
New power/RCA cables.
Walnut base improvements - added bottom panel.
Both ready to plug and play, with the only thing needed in the future might be a new stylus.
Substantial labor time involved in them to make them "right" and reliable.
Would you "haggle" them down?
I have seen lots of stellar examples of turntables and receivers sitting on Craigslist or EBay for long periods of time, which tells me that the fish just aren't biting or the prices are way out of range...Or else they'd be sold fast! I don't usually look for those types of components, but that could be because I have more fun tinkering with the neglected, abused ones...
I would buy that Realistic Miracord, but MY ad would look a little more like this...
Miracord/Realistic turntable, scratches on dust cover
Headshell and cartridge not included.
Has single spindle and 45 adapter.
This has sat in my father's attic for 35 years. Don't know if it still works.
Base missing nameplate.
My offer might be something like $125 instead of $200...If I bought off of Craigslist, I would meet the guy in person, discuss our mutual love for vintage audio and then, see what his best price would be (My 40a was $25.00, by the way and I did get to meet the guy in person...)...He would know that his turntable would be lovingly cared for by someone who could give it the TLC it needs...If he was trying to thin the herd, I would be helping him at the same time...A mutual win-win! I could either then do the work required (and find any missing accessories) or have it done by a pro, but in both cases, the cost would be worth it, because the quality is there and I've learned not to subject my good records to anything of lower quality...Of course, I have many turntables and assorted record players...Plus, lots of beat-up 45's, as well, so they also need something that will play them...
Regarding the Elac, we both see the quality and potential in this turntable, but we're on different sides of the same coin...The turntables I buy are not usually the most stellar exemplars, but they most certainly have the potential to get there eventually...