Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by musicmn » 19 Aug 2018 15:20

Hi, in my experience as long both the internal and external pitch controls have been cleaned and adjusted. And the motor has been serviced you should have no problem with the platter speed. On both my sl 1300 if I ever need to slightly adjust the platter speed after four or five records that's a lot. Just make sure before you buy it that everything is working as it should. Now I can't say how long it will last, and don't forget these turntables are pushing 35 to 40 yrs old now. And I don't know how well it was taken care of over the yrs. Or how well it was serviced if ever. So check out both turntables you like very well and buy the one you have the most confidence in. I hope this helps

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by o01 » 19 Aug 2018 16:02

Ghaasl wrote:From what I’ve read/heard Technics direct drive turntables are of really good quality. Speed, even in non quartz locked models, is always spot on. As with anything of that age, it’s always possible for them to break down. The likelihood of it happening is low, but still possible. I’ll let the Technics experts break the models down, assess their pros and cons, and make specific recommendations. Good luck and welcome!
Thank you!

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by o01 » 19 Aug 2018 16:09

musicmn wrote:Hi, in my experience as long both the internal and external pitch controls have been cleaned and adjusted. And the motor has been serviced you should have no problem with the platter speed. On both my sl 1300 if I ever need to slightly adjust the platter speed after four or five records that's a lot. Just make sure before you buy it that everything is working as it should. Now I can't say how long it will last, and don't forget these turntables are pushing 35 to 40 yrs old now. And I don't know how well it was taken care of over the yrs. Or how well it was serviced if ever. So check out both turntables you like very well and buy the one you have the most confidence in. I hope this helps
Thanks - I am offered this TECHNICS SL-1310:
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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Electone » 20 Aug 2018 01:16

The 1310 mkI is a tank. It is the black version of the 1300 which, in addition to the 1400 (semi-auto) and 1500 (manual) have non-suspended chassis. The 1600, 1700 & 1800 are suspended. Common, but easily corrected issues are: speed irregularities due to dirty pitch control pots and sticky, old grease on the automatic mechanisms. I'd also give a shout-out to the SL-D3 which is a fantastic low-cost, reliable table.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by o01 » 23 Aug 2018 00:10

Thank you guys for your input and Help. I am proud owner of TECHNICS SL-1310 :) Installed brand new AT95E/BL. First impressions are very good, I am suprised. :) Now someone tell me why does it play better than Audio-Technica LP120 USB? I use everything what I used with AT, I mean cartridge, and the whole system. Wow.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by eddie edirol » 23 Aug 2018 02:17

o01 wrote:Thank you guys for your input and Help. I am proud owner of TECHNICS SL-1310 :) Installed brand new AT95E/BL. First impressions are very good, I am suprised. :) Now someone tell me why does it play better than Audio-Technica LP120 USB?
Because the Audio Technica turntable is not nearly the same quality as the 1310. Technics made the 1310 when turntables were in their heyday, and Technics themselves were booming with designs and sales. The 1310 is also overbuilt, which is why it still works 40 years later.

I have an SL-1650 that was made a couple years after the 1310, and it also is overbuilt, like a tank. In my opinion both of these turntables will outlast us.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by o01 » 23 Aug 2018 14:13

eddie edirol wrote:
o01 wrote:Thank you guys for your input and Help. I am proud owner of TECHNICS SL-1310 :) Installed brand new AT95E/BL. First impressions are very good, I am suprised. :) Now someone tell me why does it play better than Audio-Technica LP120 USB?
Because the Audio Technica turntable is not nearly the same quality as the 1310. Technics made the 1310 when turntables were in their heyday, and Technics themselves were booming with designs and sales. The 1310 is also overbuilt, which is why it still works 40 years later.

I have an SL-1650 that was made a couple years after the 1310, and it also is overbuilt, like a tank. In my opinion both of these turntables will outlast us.
It's solid as rock, indeed.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Frisbee7 » 25 Aug 2018 02:51

I found the d3 used and bought it to use in a second System a couple years ago. Now it is my best table and it works flawlessly. I cannot wait to buy another vintage Technics turntable. Fabulous machines.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Dof » 29 Aug 2018 15:42

Had to clean it because there was some wavering, just a little bit.
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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Dof » 15 Sep 2018 14:31

No wavering but it does not keep the speed. I run some tests. Set the speed yesterday night before at 33:58 and tested it today. Let the motor running continuously from 8:00 AM to 15:10 PM. Here's what I found - unfortunately the speed is not stable and deteriorates over time. My Audiotechnica keeps the RPM stable at 33:54 all the time, it's quartz.
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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Spinner45 » 15 Sep 2018 16:48

Dof wrote:No wavering but it does not keep the speed. I run some tests. Set the speed yesterday night before at 33:58 and tested it today. Let the motor running continuously from 8:00 AM to 15:10 PM. Here's what I found - unfortunately the speed is not stable and deteriorates over time. My Audiotechnica keeps the RPM stable at 33:54 all the time, it's quartz.
What do you mean it doesn't keep the speed?
Your chart shows that it's 33.5RPM for hours.....forget the "hundredths" designation.
8:02AM - 33.5
7 hours later - 33.5
I think that's quite respectable.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Ghaasl » 15 Sep 2018 16:50

And, it should be at 33.33 rpm

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by audiopile » 15 Sep 2018 17:00

Can you see this with the built in strobe ? If not - i wouldn't worry about it. You aren't getting excessive wow/flutter if you can play a good piano recording and don't notice waverering on sustained notes decaying.Everything except the Quartz lock speed is better on the Technics compared to the AT table.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Spinner45 » 15 Sep 2018 17:38

Ghaasl wrote:And, it should be at 33.33 rpm
What I'm saying is that 0.09 RPM speed deviation over a period of 7 hours on a non-quartz-lock machine is rediculous to even discuss on a 40+ year old turntable.
I doubt even "perfect pitch" people wouldn't be able to tell the difference either.

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Re: Please advice on vintage Technics turntable

Post by Ghaasl » 15 Sep 2018 17:50

Spinner45 wrote:
Ghaasl wrote:And, it should be at 33.33 rpm
What I'm saying is that 0.09 RPM speed deviation over a period of 7 hours on a non-quartz-lock machine is rediculous to even discuss on a 40+ year old turntable.
I doubt even "perfect pitch" people wouldn't be able to tell the difference either.
I wasn’t refuting your statement, Spinner. Just saying so the OP knows. Deviating .09 RPM is pretty damn solid, if you ask me.