help needed for a glued headshell

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by cafe latte » 02 Jun 2018 00:04

The thread locktite needs an absence of air to set ie will only set inside the thread, residue outside wont set. I have spent a bit of time in Italy and nail varnish is very very likely indeed and thread locks such as locktite are very unlikely unless the person who owned the turntable is a mechanic or something. I have a lot of Italian friends in Italy only one would ever consider servicing his own car. Totally different culture to the UK or America. Money on nail varnish, especially as it is all over the place the person who applied it was not someone who is used to doing manual stuff..
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Copperhead » 02 Jun 2018 00:44

cafe latte wrote: I have spent a bit of time in Italy and nail varnish is very very likely indeed


Is it some sort of dress code?

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by cafe latte » 02 Jun 2018 03:13

Copperhead wrote:
cafe latte wrote: I have spent a bit of time in Italy and nail varnish is very very likely indeed


Is it some sort of dress code?
No mate, just not many average people in Italy would know what thread lock is. And just about every Italian woman will have nail varnish for sure.
Also it is badly applied so someone with knowledge of mechanics is unlikely to have done it so I am punting that someone not very manual did it (its a mess) so it is likely to be something they had to hand in the house so thinking they raided the wife's nail varnish.
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Massimiliano » 03 Jun 2018 16:11

This is true: badly applied, so someone with knowledge of mechanics is unlikely to have done that mess. In Italy we have a strange behaviour toward some industrial products, including the poor thread locker.
I think this is due to an ancient peasant sobriety and some national impulse towards "artigianato" (handicraft) - with mixed results.

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by cafe latte » 03 Jun 2018 23:35

Have you tried acetone yet?
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Copperhead » 04 Jun 2018 00:18

cafe latte wrote:Have you tried acetone yet?
Chris
Hold your horses mate, it's far too soon for that. As any Italian worth their salt will tell you, some things can't be hurried. After plenty of observation the philosophizing stage begins, here the meaning of the tonearm in relation to one's life is carefully pondered upon.

Massimiliano, comprati una bottiglia di acetone e spennella il materiale rosso, qui tutti aspettiamo il risultato.

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Massimiliano » 14 Jun 2018 12:35

Update: luckily, it's only red nail polish. I'll post some pictures as soon as I clean the new boy.

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by cafe latte » 14 Jun 2018 12:51

Massimiliano wrote:Update: luckily, it's only red nail polish. I'll post some pictures as soon as I clean the new boy.
It was Italy I knew it, no way was it thread lock, great news!! Did you manage to clean it all up?
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Massimiliano » 14 Jun 2018 17:57

It was Italy I knew it, no way was it thread lock, great news!! Did you manage to clean it all up?
Chris
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm doing that now. The headshell is free of the tonearm.

What kind of cartridge is that? I've never heard of ERC.
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Massimiliano » 15 Jun 2018 16:54

Nail polish removed, and no damage here.
Long live the Acetone!
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by JDJX » 15 Jun 2018 17:08

Great. :)

I guess the next question wound be is why was nail polish used in the first place.

Is the head shell now loose?
If it is loose, a non permanent and much neater method can be used to secure it sufficiently.

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by cafe latte » 15 Jun 2018 23:50

How come wires are still attached? Is this arm different to normal headshell?
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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Spinner45 » 16 Jun 2018 00:26

Looks like some genetic variant of a Shure cartridge.
Odd headshell setup too.

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Massimiliano » 16 Jun 2018 02:02

The headshell can now be firmly attached. And that red garbage? I don't see the point of it. With regard to the arm and the wires, this old Lesa is definitely non-standard. There is no electrical union joint, only a threaded collar end a thread on the headshell, so the connection is purely mechanical - with "flying" wires.
Can a genetic variation of a Shure cartridge produce... a monstrous sound? :shock:

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Re: help needed for a glued headshell

Post by Coffee Phil » 16 Jun 2018 02:07

Hi Massimiliano,

I'm coming to this a bit late but my question is similar to that of Cafe Latte. Why are the wires comming out of the arm? I was expecting a socket similar to that of SME and a good many Japanese turntables. Are the wires expected to go directly to the cartridge and the nut just retains the shell? I suppose if it is solid that is OK, but it is sure more trouble to swap headshells than with the SME approach.

Arm geometry is not my greatest expertise but I'm wondering if putting an SME type socket on the arm and using an SME type shell might not be a good approach. Here is an SME socket on eBay now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SME-tonearm-he ... sid=p20603

There are all sorts of SME type headshells on eBay at various prices.

Someone with more arm geometry expertise than me should comment on this.

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Massimiliano wrote:
It was Italy I knew it, no way was it thread lock, great news!! Did you manage to clean it all up?
Chris
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm doing that now. The headshell is free of the tonearm.

What kind of cartridge is that? I've never heard of ERC.