Best table for my budget.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by MCM_Fan » 15 Mar 2019 06:58

vinyl master wrote:
15 Mar 2019 05:47
You know, MCM...I liked that MCS, too...Looks like it could be a solid winner...For a project on the cheap, the Kenwood and Pioneer PL-A25 would be worth the rehab, too, at $50 each, but like I said, I can't hoard them all...
The MCS 6700 is actually an upgraded version of the Technics SL-1950. They improved the cueing mechanism and made a few other minor improvements (plus, it looks a lot nicer than the SL-1950, IMHO). It sold for $229.95, with a Shure cartridge. The SL-1950 sold for $219.95, sans cartridge.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by Slickmccool » 15 Mar 2019 17:04

That said, if you could make it here, this is another good deal for $50...

https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/ele/ ... 22957.html

This is right in my back yard.

So I would need a new cartridge.

And what do I do about the hum?

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by Slickmccool » 15 Mar 2019 17:35

vinyl master wrote:
15 Mar 2019 05:47
You know, MCM...I liked that MCS, too...Looks like it could be a solid winner...For a project on the cheap, the Kenwood and Pioneer PL-A25 would be worth the rehab, too, at $50 each, but like I said, I can't hoard them all...
That PL-A25 is literally in my city. What do I do about the hum tho?

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by chgc » 15 Mar 2019 21:19

That one looks like a project, for sure. Bad motor, bad bushings (“it is vibrating a bit”), hum, questionable cartridge… but it is “in very good shape(!)”

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by chgc » 15 Mar 2019 21:20

aside from the broken cover.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by MCM_Fan » 15 Mar 2019 21:48

chgc wrote:
15 Mar 2019 21:19
That one looks like a project, for sure. Bad motor, bad bushings (“it is vibrating a bit”), hum, questionable cartridge… but it is “in very good shape(!)”
I wouldn't even consider than one a project. More like a parts table.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by vinyl master » 16 Mar 2019 00:19

Boy, I didn't even see the pics of the cracked cover... #-o Good job spotting that, guys! =D>

I don't know how I missed it... :oops:

That said, if someone wanted to install a new motor, I know where to find one...

https://organdonorparts.com/Pioneer-PL- ... 1_c159.htm

Even with the added cost of a new motor ($35.00), The Pioneer could be the right project for someone...They might even have a decent dust cover for it, too...

That said, if you didn't want a major project, slick, I like the looks and the quality of that MCS...Could be a great TT with some love and it looks in decent shape... :D

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by Slickmccool » 16 Mar 2019 00:43

I think I’m buying new lol....

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by MCM_Fan » 16 Mar 2019 01:20

Slickmccool wrote:
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I think I’m buying new lol....
Nah, get the MCS. It looks to be in great condition and will blow away anything new you can get for close to the price.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by Slickmccool » 16 Mar 2019 02:45

MCM_Fan wrote:
16 Mar 2019 01:20
Slickmccool wrote:
16 Mar 2019 00:43
I think I’m buying new lol....
Nah, get the MCS. It looks to be in great condition and will blow away anything new you can get for close to the price.
How do I know the type of cartridge to get? Or what weight it holds. I’d like to use an ortophon

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by MCM_Fan » 16 Mar 2019 02:54

Slickmccool wrote:
16 Mar 2019 02:45
MCM_Fan wrote:
16 Mar 2019 01:20
Slickmccool wrote:
16 Mar 2019 00:43
I think I’m buying new lol....
Nah, get the MCS. It looks to be in great condition and will blow away anything new you can get for close to the price.
How do I know the type of cartridge to get? Or what weight it holds. I’d like to use an ortophon
Do you already own an Ortofon cartridge? If so, which one?

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by Bob Dillon » 16 Mar 2019 02:55

Looks like a medium mass arm on the MCS, it will be compatible with a wide range of cartridges.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by MCM_Fan » 16 Mar 2019 03:17

Slickmccool wrote:
16 Mar 2019 02:45
MCM_Fan wrote:
16 Mar 2019 01:20
Slickmccool wrote:
16 Mar 2019 00:43
I think I’m buying new lol....
Nah, get the MCS. It looks to be in great condition and will blow away anything new you can get for close to the price.
How do I know the type of cartridge to get? Or what weight it holds. I’d like to use an ortophon
See my post at the bottom of the previous page for a few recommendations. As I said in that post, most carts that track between 1 and 4g will work with the MCS tonearm, with something between 1.5 and 3g being ideal.

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by vinyl master » 16 Mar 2019 07:02

New is good...Like I said, a U-Turn or a Fluance might be what I'd look at if I was in the market for new...Just keep in mind that NOT all vintage turntables are disasters waiting to happen...Some have been very well-cared for and serviced and just need someone to keep them maintained...Keep in mind that even a new turntable will need some periodic maintenance, such as replacing the stylus on the cartridge or adding a new belt...And as you said, this is Detroit...There are a lot of places one can look for a turntable...And just so I can say I exhausted all avenues, I did find these on EBay...Since you're local, you might be able to inspect/pick them up personally and save on the shipping...It doesn't hurt to ask the sellers and these aren't too far away...

There is this one in Royal Oak...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MCS-6502-TECHN ... ctupt=true

This one out in Ann Arbor...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-PS-10- ... SwYNRchUOa

This one in Rochester...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Turnta ... Swi8dbbxcq

Another from Royal Oak...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HITACHI-HT-356 ... SwBRZceJBR

This is what you might be looking at, if you went for a U-Turn, but he is also offering some nice AudioEngine speakers with the package...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/U-Turn-Audio-O ... SwQ9xciaVr

You will need an amplifier, receiver (an amplifier with a tuner) or a standalone preamp (like the Art DJ Pre-II) with the proper phono inputs to hear any sound of your turntable...Do you have a set of speakers, too? :-k

With all that said, I still think the MCS on Craigslist would be a very good deal, although I listed a different MCS model slightly cheaper above...Personally, I prefer the black (It's very sleek! 8) ), but your mileage may differ...You don't see that kind of quality much nowadays and as the seller says, "Don't be fooled by the MCS name. If you do a little research, you'll find that this is a sleeper turntable..." He's right, you know! :wink:

The Realistic would also be a consideration...Another "sleeper table"...

Anyway, maybe something there might float your boat, too...Any of the ones I listed would be good tables to have...

Whatever you do, don't automatically discount vintage, if the price and table are right...And if you do upgrade, there's nothing wrong with having a spare table to fall back on...

By the way, if you want the MCS, make sure to get in touch with the seller quickly! I've lost a few and gained a few over the years, and sometimes you have to be fast so you don't miss your chance!

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Re: Best table for my budget.

Post by Slickmccool » 16 Mar 2019 07:38

That mcs in royal oak is a beauty. That may be the one! Thanks!!