Time to replace old for new

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Re: Time to replace old for new

Post by raphaelmabo » 15 Jan 2020 12:49

colver wrote:
13 Jan 2020 20:27
Hi folks I'm looking for a bit of advice. I'm thinking about replacing my Thorens td125 MK2 and Garrard Zero 100sb for a more modern TT, either new or up to about 25 years old. Something that needs less repairs or tinkering. Any ideas what would sound decent and more "pop a record on and play"? I do like the Theorens td290 and 280, the cheaper Linn's and the Systemdeks.
I have the TD280 Mk II and it's a nice turntable, but it was an entry level offering and the TD125 was an upper market and flagship player so not really in the same class. But I do like my TD280 for it's musical sound and it do has semi-automatics if one wants that. TD290 is a 280 with a Pro-Ject tonearm, a bigger plinth and a new motor. I would recommend going for the 295 Mk IV instead (it's a TD290 with a dual-plinth construction). But it's just been discontinued.

Now, there's another alternative - the Thorens TD 402 DD.
This is actually Thorens first direct drive since the 80's. And it's semi-automatic with auto-start and auto-stop. ("semi" because you still control the tonearm lift). It has gotten great verdicts in German magazines and it comes with a VM95 that is easy upgradeable.

Here you have the German tests:
https://www.testberichte.de/p/thorens-t ... ml#artikel

(I know of only one test in english, but this was for a pre-production/prototype unit so it's not valid. It raised some concerns that are cured with the production units).

Here you have info about it:
https://www.thorens.com/en/thorens®-td-402-en.html

If you want a full automatic, then Thorens has the new exclusive 148A, this may be the best new fully automatic on the market today. But it's more expensive than the TD402.
https://www.thorens.com/en/thorens®-td-148a-2.html

You may also want to have a look at the new TD1600/1601 (1601 is a semi-automatic version of the 1600). It has got really great reviews and Thorens is "back on form". Offering a musical, muscular and very stable and open sound.
Here's an english review of a pre-production/prototype unit:
https://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/thor ... 601_e.html

Please note that the review has one error: It states that Thorens has production in China, this is not true. Some of their products (the TD402 and 1600/1601) are produced in Taiwan (yes, Taiwan, not China) for cost reasons. Others are produced in Germany. All are designed and developed in Germany by the Thorens R&D team.

Here we have another great review, of the production model. (yes, it's now in full production)
https://www.lowbeats.de/thorens-td-1600 ... tradition/

Here's Thorens own info:
https://www.thorens.com/en/thorens®-td-1600-en.html