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Postby Trippigs » 20 Sep 2017 18:55

Hello:
What bearing lube oil is recommended for a Thorens TD 124? I see numerous synthetic oils on the market but don't know the differences if any. In addition, are there any simple guidelines for applying the oil.
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Re: Oil

Postby terry-a » 21 Sep 2017 00:52

Some (like me) use 3-IN-ONE 20wt motor oil, not to be confused with 3-IN-ONE Multi-Purpose oil.
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Re: Oil

Postby Danilo_ » 04 Oct 2017 18:02

in 45 yrs of Thorens ownership I've tried several oils. Dependent on the Flavour of the month (sad but true) From Sewing machine oil to Phil's tenacious oil (140 weight! (thorens page recomendation)
NONE was outstanding, although the pancake syrup thick 'Phil's soon came back out.
3 'n 1 electrical motor oil (specific for sleeve bearings) from a hardware shop is a decent safe choice.
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Re: Oil

Postby Trippigs » 04 Oct 2017 22:38

I appreciate the advice from both of you. The 3'n 1 varieties are certainly the easiest to find. The synthetic oils were intriguing but they felt like a home brew which turned me off.
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Re: Oil

Postby Louis2008 » 07 Oct 2017 21:18

I find the following in the Thorens TD125 maintenance manual:
"The turntable bearing shaft revolves in self-lubrication bearings. Under normal conditions lubrication is not necessary before several 1000 hours of running. When lubrication of the turntable bearing is necessary use exclusively Caltex Regal Oil B (ROB) as supplied with our lubrication kit available as an accessory at your dealer."
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Re: Oil

Postby Trippigs » 11 Oct 2017 23:14

Well, I ended up using sewing machine oil which others have used. It is a The Embroidery Shop product and it is a clear lightweight oil in a nice applicator. I cleaned out quite a bit of dark gunk before refilling with new oil. Should be good to go for awhile.
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Re: Oil

Postby doctor fuse » 14 Oct 2017 01:53

I've been using the 10W-30 diesel motor oil for my VW Jetta TDI for the past year, in my TD160. I mean, they are both German, and both have the initials "TD", so it must be OK, jah?
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Re: Oil

Postby cafe latte » 14 Oct 2017 04:56

Trippigs wrote:Well, I ended up using sewing machine oil which others have used. It is a The Embroidery Shop product and it is a clear lightweight oil in a nice applicator. I cleaned out quite a bit of dark gunk before refilling with new oil. Should be good to go for awhile.

Sewing machine oil is too thin is is only 5w you need 20w + 1 to electric motor 3 in one which is the correct weight. Also compressor oil is good 46 or 68 weight is similar to 20w.
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Re: Oil

Postby cafe latte » 14 Oct 2017 05:00

doctor fuse wrote:I've been using the 10W-30 diesel motor oil for my VW Jetta TDI for the past year, in my TD160. I mean, they are both German, and both have the initials "TD", so it must be OK, jah?

Motor oil is a very bad idea for a couple of reasons, first it has an additive that holds solids in suspension so that the car oil filter can filter them out. In a closed bearing with no filter you dont want this it is far better any solids settle out to reduce wear.
Second car oils have emulsifying agents which attract water. In an open bearing like a turntable bearing this again is not good you end up with much water in the oil at the top of the bearing and pitting of the bearing shaft results.
Here is a pic of a spindle after the rust was cleaned up and the white gloopy engine oil was removed.
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Re: Oil

Postby doctor fuse » 14 Oct 2017 05:19

Thanks, Chris! I now see the error of my ways. I will now put my homebrew biodiesel fuel oil in the spindle! :)
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Re: Oil

Postby cafe latte » 14 Oct 2017 06:03

doctor fuse wrote:Thanks, Chris! I now see the error of my ways. I will now put my homebrew biodiesel fuel oil in the spindle! :)

Mmm aroma de fish and chips while spinning vinyl.. :lol:
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Re: Oil

Postby doctor fuse » 14 Oct 2017 06:34

You understand. Although it is actually more like Eau du Popcorn....
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Re: Oil

Postby tckmet » 14 Oct 2017 06:37

:lol: How about snake oil!!!!!!! Plenty of it out there. :lol:
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Re: Oil

Postby doctor fuse » 14 Oct 2017 07:21

I incorporated a biodiesel coop a decade ago, here in Victoria, BC, but maybe I should have founded a Snake Oil Coop instead?!?! :lol:
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Re: Oil

Postby syzygy » 15 Oct 2017 12:32

“ When lubrication of the turntable bearing is necessary use exclusively Caltex Regal Oil B (ROB)”

You can save money by buying this in 55 gal. drum size.
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