Best oil for lubricating bearing?

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Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by richardulph » 14 Feb 2020 07:08

Hello,

I have a Thorens TD150 MK2 and need to lubricate the bearing. I've done some research on oils to use but there's a lot of info out there.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by jwvanwijngaarden » 14 Feb 2020 07:44

There are many opinions and preferences around. I use an universal "handy" oil, an oil for sewing machines and bicycles etc. It is simple, cheap and readily available. I also think an advantage is there are few additives which might influence the metal in the bearing in this oil. My TD160 is almost forty years old, and the bearing looks still perfect, so even if this would not be the most optimal choice, the bearing will last in any case my time here...

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by aardvarkash10 » 14 Feb 2020 07:59

uuuum, wild idea here but, what does the manufacturer recommend?

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by Paul-H » 14 Feb 2020 08:16

I suspect there are as many recommendations as there are turntables

I few I have seen are the old 3 in 1 oil and 0-30 fully synthetic motor oil and sewing machine oil.

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Post by spensar » 14 Feb 2020 12:20

A good quality light oil is good. I used sewing machine oil for a TD 160 and 166.

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by Tidzertornado103 » 14 Feb 2020 12:35

Thorens sell "their special oil" for their turntable and motor bearings. I have owned several turntables, some exotic, some not quite as exotic, I am now refurbishing a Thorens 320. I have only ever used Singer sewing machine oil on all these turntables, or 3 in one, which I'm sure is the same as Singers. Trot of to your local Chemist, and purchase some Olive Oil ear drops, empty the little bottle, clean out, and fill with the oil. when oiling the various bearings etc, use the "Dropper" that came with the bottle. Remember, only a couple of oil drops are needed. Do Not Drown. You have a very nice turntable! Toodle-oo Tidzertornado

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by jwvanwijngaarden » 14 Feb 2020 13:32

aardvarkash10 wrote:
14 Feb 2020 07:59
uuuum, wild idea here but, what does the manufacturer recommend?
That is of course a good suggestion, but I stopped following that a long time ago. If I would do that, I would end up with a lot of recommanded bottles and cans of which I would use only a very tiny bit, for my bike, the motor bike, the mowing machine, the winches on the sailing boat and so on. So nowadays I reduced to a few, never had any problem doing so.

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by backtotheblack » 14 Feb 2020 13:40

depends what the bearing is constructed from but generally its EP80 or 90 you will get it at any car accessory store e.g. halfords or euro car parts. EP stands for Extreme Pressure so perfect for a shaft that gets pulled onto a wall by a belt.

dont just put oil in to top it up. the bearing shaft, well and ball all need to be cleaned of the old oil. if you dont then the old oil has particles that will mix with the new oil turning it into "grinding paste".

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Post by pivot » 14 Feb 2020 16:29

"First of all, do no harm" A simple oil with no additives means you can remove old oil with no residue. Sewing machine oil or 3-in-1 electric motor oil (NOT standard 3-in-1) both are a SAE 20 weight oil with no additives.

https://www.3inone.com/products/motor-oil/

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Post by Roberto C2H3 » 14 Feb 2020 17:03

aardvarkash10 wrote:
14 Feb 2020 07:59
uuuum, wild idea here but, what does the manufacturer recommend?
+ 1 on the above. 8)

I have been accused in the past of pushing "exotic" oils for turntables. Yet, Technics, which is the brand of my turntables, recommends an oil which is more viscous than the one found in 3 in 1 machine oils. That is because Technics turntables are self lubricating, and actually absorb oil into the spindle and then go about releasing it as it spins. Too light and it spills out too quickly. Too viscous, and it clogs the pores... They recommend an oil that can now be found as Anderol 465. Originally it was shipped under the Technics brand with their turntables.

I have no idea how other turntables operate in this respect, nor do I have any idea about their particular oil requirements. What I do know is that not all turntables are created equal, and not all require the same oil to function at the top of their specs...

Best from the Pampas,
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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by spensar » 14 Feb 2020 17:41

Roberto C2H3 wrote:
14 Feb 2020 17:03
... They recommend an oil that can now be found as Anderol 465. Originally it was shipped under the Technics brand with their turntables.
Thanks, I never read that one before. A quick search shows that it's sold as an oil for pellet stove motors so you may find it at a fireplace store.

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by lenjack » 14 Feb 2020 19:46

You can find it at kabusa.com, under Technics lubricating oil. Expensive, but lasts 1 1/2 lifetimes.

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by user510 » 14 Feb 2020 20:29

aardvarkash10 wrote:
14 Feb 2020 07:59
uuuum, wild idea here but, what does the manufacturer recommend?
The tech Data Sheet at the above quoted link identifies this oil as a turbine oil, which conforms to what Thorens used back in the day. The ISO viscosity of 46 is the same wt I use at home with the Texaco Rega R&O 46. This cross references to the SAE std of 20 wt

Looks good to me.
Another choice is the electric motor lube from 3-in One corp which is a straight SAE 20 wt turbine oil. Available at your local hardware store in the U.S. for under $5.00 per can.

The one constant thing we can count on is that Thorens used Oilite bushings in the motor and platter bearings. The lube in use needs to be compatible with this type of bushing.

ISO 46 = SAE 20

-Steve

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 15 Feb 2020 00:43

spensar wrote:
14 Feb 2020 17:41
Roberto C2H3 wrote:
14 Feb 2020 17:03
... They recommend an oil that can now be found as Anderol 465. Originally it was shipped under the Technics brand with their turntables.
Thanks, I never read that one before. A quick search shows that it's sold as an oil for pellet stove motors so you may find it at a fireplace store.
Indeed, brother. I have a small bottle of that one and it works like a charm with my Technics turntables... 8)

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Re: Best oil for lubricating bearing?

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 15 Feb 2020 00:45

lenjack wrote:
14 Feb 2020 19:46
You can find it at kabusa.com, under Technics lubricating oil. Expensive, but lasts 1 1/2 lifetimes.
Right you are. 8) I bought the smallest possible Anderol 465 bottle... I have enough for 10 to 15 lifetimes :lol:

Technics are very popular here in Buenos Aires, so I have provided portions of it as gifts to my vinyl community contacts here...

Best from the Pampas,

roberto

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