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Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 11 May 2019 11:48
by wgmontgomery
I can buy a complete (with box, manual etc) TD-166 mk 2 for about $275; would that be a significant upgrade (assuming same cartridge) to my 110? I read that the 166 is more plastic than metal, but so is my 110.
If it is NOT really an upgrade, which models (140, 150 series 300 series) would I need to get for a significant upgrade?
Thanks

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 11 May 2019 13:19
by noisefreq
That's not a bad price for a Thorens (especially with the box) but the only thing you're upgrading would be the look.

Very similar arm, same effective mass.

Does the TD 110 have auto lift?
Does the TD 166 mkII include a cartridge? That's always a deciding factor.

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 11 May 2019 17:28
by wgmontgomery
The 166 has a Rega Carbon cartridge; the 110 has a Shure V15iii. I already own the 110, so I could use whichever cartridge is better.

Thanks

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110 correction 105!

Posted: 11 May 2019 20:20
by wgmontgomery
Correction: the other (NOT 166) Thorens is a 105, not a 110. Sorry

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 12 May 2019 21:55
by noisefreq
I owned a TD 115.
The 105, 110 and 115 are very similar.
Very capable but low on the Thorens hierarchy.
The 105 has tonearm lift, a convenient feature.

The Rega Carbon is a cheap Audio Technica 3600 with a Rega nameplate slapped on it.

The V15 III is very nice and would match the compliance of the Thorens arm very well.
The Carbon, not so much.

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 13 May 2019 10:54
by wgmontgomery
Thx!

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 18 May 2019 16:33
by deanb64
Thorens td166 mk11 no plastic as far as I can tell.

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 19 May 2019 04:12
by lini
wgm: I fear, for a really significant upgrade you'd rather need to consider a TD126(II).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

P.S.: Mind you, that unlike the TD126(II) the TD126III has the same little DC-Motor as as the TD104/105(II) and TD110/115(II). That motor doesn't live forever - so, while the TD126III as such would also be a good model, if you went for that, you'd better keep your TD105, so you'd have a spare motor at hand.

Re: Thorens 166 mk ii vs 110

Posted: 19 May 2019 13:50
by wgmontgomery
I bought a Music Hall MMR 5.1SE with a Goldring 2400 cartridge. I'll probably sell my 105 but only after I hear the 5.1SE. I'd also say that while the 105 is an entry level Thorens IMO, it IS a Thorens (made in Germany) and is probably better than many of the newer entry level turntables available today.

Thanks