Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 18 May 2016 13:34

Outstanding electrafixion =D>

One hour? Wow, you should change your nick to "The Flash" :lol:

Just as a suggestion for others out there trying to repair one of these turntables in this series: I decided to remove the muting mechanism from my SL-1400 MK2 as in my opinion it was yet another lever / switch / mechanism that exerted pressure on the infamous part.

Personally I like to listen to what is going on with my stylus / cartridge when its operating, so I don't really miss this feature, and my SL-1400 MK2 is performing beautifully with the Shape Ways part 8)

Best from the Pampas,
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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by ryanmadam » 20 May 2016 14:29

OP - thanks for taking this on and making it available to others. I hope you get a cut of every one of these made.

I tore my 1400mk2 down to verify which one I needed and just ordered one for the bronze bushing version. I didn't have any trouble getting out any screws and it all went back together just fine. It still plays, so I'll tear it down again next week when the part arrives from Shapeways.

Thanks again!!

Ryan
SDG0407 wrote:Hi,

I wanna share something that might interest some owners of Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk 2 series turntable.

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For those interested i put the 3D part for sale at Shapeways so you can order it from them:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/1760114/ ... lever.html

Best regards

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by electrafixion » 26 May 2016 05:19

Roberto C2H3 wrote:Outstanding electrafixion =D>

One hour? Wow, you should change your nick to "The Flash" :lol:

roberto
I'm not too proud to admit that it took a couple attempts at re-assembly before I got right :lol:

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by ryanmadam » 26 May 2016 05:40

I got my part from Shapeways less than 48 hours after ordering it.

Since I had already taken the machine down once to determine which one I needed, it only took me about 15 minutes to disassemble it again and to install the new part.

Tack on another 10 minutes to re-disassemble it and seat the new part properly in the auto-mechanism, and it was done in under 30 minutes.

Again, I can't thank the OP enough. This part is absolutely perfect.

Ryan

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 27 May 2016 04:16

ryanmadam wrote:I got my part from Shapeways less than 48 hours after ordering it.

Since I had already taken the machine down once to determine which one I needed, it only took me about 15 minutes to disassemble it again and to install the new part.

Tack on another 10 minutes to re-disassemble it and seat the new part properly in the auto-mechanism, and it was done in under 30 minutes.

Again, I can't thank the OP enough. This part is absolutely perfect.

Ryan
So did you have to desolder the tonearm on yours?

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by ryanmadam » 27 May 2016 06:24

No. There is more than enough slack to work with if you're even marginally careful.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 27 May 2016 15:14

ryanmadam wrote:No. There is more than enough slack to work with if you're even marginally careful.
Okay. How much disassembly is required for you to tell which part you need? Can you tell by just taking the bottom panel off?

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by ryanmadam » 27 May 2016 15:55

No. You pretty much have to get all the way to the point where you're ready to take the broken piece out.

You need to remove:

the inner cover
Bottom plate (7 screws)
4 suspension screws
Disconnect 5 wiring harnesses (cut the ties and discard them)
Separate the chassis (cartridge off, cue lever up)
3 tone arm mount screws (one is under a rubber cover)
Disconnect tone arm ground wire

At this point you have the tone arm assembly free and in your hands completely separate from the rest of the turntable.

Looking at the bottom of the assembly, with the arm pointing away from you:

Remove 3 screws from the auto-cue board on the left. (This is the thing the short hook on the new piece has to fit into properly and I f****d up the first time) Two of these screws are in a brass bracket that detaches. Don't lose it.
Remove the spring stain relief

Remove two screws from the brass disc that rotates when you swing the arm

Remove the tone arm rest (5mm nut)

Carefully pull the brass plate free and let it rest to the right of the assembly. The wires are long enough, but they will break if you rough it up.

With a small flat screwdriver pop the e-clip off the post holding the broken piece. Don't lose it or the spring. Let the e-clip land in the palm of your hand. If you don't cup your hand around it, it will fly across the room and disappear forever.

Pull off the spring and the little washer.

Slide the broken piece up the post and look at the other side of it.

Only now can you tell which one you need.

Ryan

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by jabird56 » 27 Jun 2016 15:46

Are there English instructions showing how to disassemble/re-assemble the tone arm assembly available for this fix?

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by ryanmadam » 27 Jun 2016 15:59

My post right above yours is pretty clear, I thought.

Ryan

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by jabird56 » 27 Jun 2016 16:20

ryanmadam wrote:My post right above yours is pretty clear, I thought.

Ryan
Thanks Ryan, didn't make it to the last page to see this. :-)

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by s2a2 » 10 Sep 2016 08:59

:D Received and changed the piece. Now I'm able to lift the arm. The autoreturn don't works :( , but this can give me more hours of taking apart my 1300 mkII.

Thanks for the valuable info in this post!!

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by bertiesme » 28 Sep 2016 18:06

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I have just repaired the lifting mechanism on my SL1300 MK2 but I would like to know how to adjust this switch - I presume it is the muting switch- It sits on 2 springs but it needs adjusting correctly as the steel part touches and will actually jam if you tighten it too much- I bought this deck "as is" and someone had been at it before-- there is no information in the manual on correctly adjusting this switch- Thanks in advance-Bertie

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 28 Sep 2016 18:25

Hola Bertie;

I removed the muting switch from my SL-1400 MK2 during my restoration with the Shapeways part. That is my only mod in my otherwise stock SL-1400 MK2.

I did this for two reasons:

1- I believe it places additional stress on the part that broke.
2- I like to listen at all times to what is going on with my stylus. Specially during cueing operations be they manual, semi, or fully automatic. Particularly to when its semi or fully automatic.

Just a suggestion. I have never missed the muting capability and the switch now sits in a small display case where I keep head shells, cartridges, demagnetized cartridge screw drivers, head shell nuts and bolts, head shell wire connectors, etc, etc.

Best from the Pampas,
roberto

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by bertiesme » 28 Sep 2016 18:35

Hi Roberto -Thanks for your fast reply to my question- I might do the same as I have lots of early Technics and I have never minded the sound of the stylus getting in the groove !-But say I did want to keep it do you just adjust it so that the metal extension from the rotating base of the tonearm passes through it without actually touching and works by magnetic flux?- It is really strange that there is no mention of the correct adjustment in the workshop manual- Regards, Bertie

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