Technics Sl1200 Mk1 Versus Mk2

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Technics SL1200 MK1 Versus MK2

Post by poppers » 15 Jan 2010 12:32

Has anyone experience with the SL1200 MK1. What are the major differences between that and the MK2? Do they sound different and which one is best for home use left as standard?

There seems to be little info availabe online about the MK1 and I wonder which would be best when left unmodified. One major difference does seem to be the tonearm.


Thanks In advance.

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Post by JaS » 15 Jan 2010 12:56

Hi,
The mk2 is definitely the better deck, with quartz locking, a heavier platter, lower rumble, less wow and flutter and a more refined arm. Add to this the fact that any mk1 is going to be 30+ years old and it's difficult to see a reason to choose a mk1 over a mk2, unless it's very cheap (or you prefer the styling) :-k The mk2 is also easier to find so you can afford to shop around to find a perfect one!

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Post by poppers » 15 Jan 2010 15:00

Thanks for that. I must admit i do like the look of the MK1

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Post by analogaudio » 15 Jan 2010 22:17

I agree with all Jas's points and personally I prefer the look of the mk2, and it is an altogether better machine.

Ted

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Post by rexton » 16 Jan 2010 09:34

Why not transfer the inner workings of the Mk2 into a Mk1, they are an exact fit. That way you could have all the benefits of Mk2 and the styling of Mk 1

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Post by Shoji » 16 Jan 2010 11:45

Why not transfer the inner workings of the Mk2 into a Mk1, they are an exact fit.
Hello. Please to excuse me but this is not true and no way original model compatabile for later MK2 series. Original model SL-1200 have much different motor and is MJ series. Model SL-1200MK2 is from different series design team and have open frame design with printed FG coil and original idea for use in many middle range model of domestic turntable from Matsushita fabrication plant. Circuit board plus all else is much different as also all chassis different. Motor MJ series develop further for some model SP series plus also for Kenwood plus JVC plus Hitachi plus many other. Final design spoecification for MJ series evolve for SP-10MK3.

Original model SL-1200 only servo control circuit compare later model MK2 have quartz lock for servo circuit. Original model is still good circuit and is possible to make correct modify for improvement and make for more excellent performance compare amount improvement can be make with model MK2 as limit for such improvement come very quickly. Original model have more of potential for improvement compare model MK2 but some here with small knowledge and experience may be say other wise for own commercial reason :o Is easy to note such person as always make commercial post every time :)

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Post by thedelihaus » 22 Jan 2010 06:19

I owned an original SL-120 (armless version) and just passed it along to a friend, as I also currently have an SL-1710 MK II, Sl-110 (armless SL-1100), and I have an SL-1200 MK II on the way.

The SL-120 is a nice deck. I greatly preferred the styling over the MK II. I was never fond of the early Technics arms, so I mounted a later model SL-1200 MK II arm and arm base (requires the tiniest modicum of shaving a very tiny lip section under the base). This gave me a very nice hybrid.

While I would have preferred quartz lock on the early models, I never missed it on this table really, as it held speed quite well.

And owning an original had a very nice wow factor.

The reason I moved it along is I picked up that SL-1200 MK II for $50, and it will make a nice project. I also have that SL-110 I'm restoring and the SL-1710 is pulling duty where I need a semi auto table.

But I do miss it already. And I never found it lacking or secondary to my other tables.

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Post by austinite » 14 May 2010 14:55

Shoji, would the external p.s. upgrade be essentially the same for the MkI as for the MkII, i.e., removing the regulator, connecting 21V to J1/ground? I have a MkI and no schematics and am about to embark on a simple power supply upgrade--simple if it's similar enough to the MkII.

Thanks for your insights in past posts, by the way.

--Alan

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Post by Shoji » 15 May 2010 12:50

Hello Alan. Is different circuit for original model SL-1200 to next model SL-1200MK2. Original model use different motor series from MJ range closed frame design. Later model have other motor series SFUM range open frame design. Power supply circuit in original model use lower secondary AC voltage plus also rectified DC voltage level is 25v before additional rectification made in circuit.

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Re: Technics Sl1200 Mk1 Versus Mk2

Post by Cakemix » 10 Dec 2019 17:37

For real dj’ing purposes; mixing, scratching, etc the 1200 mk1 kills the mk2. Mk1 is a completely manual turntable no quartz lock getting in the way of your control of the turntable. When technics started making only those annoying quartz lock only turntables all club djs had the quartz lock “unlocked” so a real dj could have complete control of turntable again. MK2 was a pain. Lousy suspension so had to do more to prevent the rumbling, etc MK2 is best for amateur djs or just playing records. Mk1 turntables are very rare but the absolute best and most fun for vinyl dj’ing

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Re: Technics Sl1200 Mk1 Versus Mk2

Post by rewfew » 14 Dec 2019 16:53

Yeah, well I don't have that head bobbing down enough for doing real dj'ing. Just playing records at home with the knowledge that, that pesky quartz lock is doing it's job keeping the scene real in the speed dept.

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