Technics SL-D202 - help please!

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Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by chrissy46 » 21 Sep 2019 01:27

I have an SL-D202 that belonged to my dad that I am trying to set up, but I have no idea what to do or where to start. I've tried to read the user manual but it doesn't seem to have all the info I need.

Does it have a built-in preamp or do I need to buy one?

Can I use a home theater system as a receiver? I have a Sony 5.1 surround system. It has a R/W Audio In, which seems like it would go with the R/W cord on the turntable. It works fine to play CDs and DVDs, but when I tried to hook it up to the turntable no sound came out. I have the Function set to 'Audio'.

There are 3 cords coming from the turntable - the R/W, the power cord, and another thin one. Is the thin one a grounding wire, and if so what do I do with it?

Sorry for all the questions but I am a complete newb with this stuff. I'd really like to get my dad's old records playing again so I appreciate any help

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by Alec124c41 » 21 Sep 2019 02:29

Welcome, Chrissy.
Yes, you need a phono preamp between the turntable and the receiver. The signal from the cartridge is just a few millivolts, not nearly enough for the line level inputs. Also the signal has to be re-equalized, or it would sound shrill.
The third wire is, indeed, a ground. Attach it to the phono pre-amp.
A phono preamp can cost anywhere from $20 to $ don't ask. $50 would be a good start.
Any more questions, just ask.

Cheers,
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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by chrissy46 » 21 Sep 2019 03:14

Thanks so much! I know my dad had it hooked up to some kind of receiver with a bunch of dials and controls, and to some 3 ft tall JBL speakers when he used it, but unfortunately all I have now is the turntable. I'll look into the phono preamp!

Will the surround system still work when I attach the preamp or do I need a specific kind of receiver?

As far as his records... they were left in basically a shed outdoors for a number of years. Is there any hope for them or are they probably ruined? Some are clearly warped but some look flat. Thanks again.

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by AsOriginallyRecorded » 21 Sep 2019 03:30

Wonderful turntables, I have two SL-D202 turntables myself, one as my daily player, one as a spare. Depending on the age of your Sony, it may or may not have a phono in plug, which is what you need to hook up your TT without buying a separate phono-preamp. As the much esteemed Alec mentioned, quite adequate models are available for quite reasonable price. Earlier HT receivers retained the phono inputs for a while, and some of the latest ones have re-introduced them as standard equipment. A good general cleaning may be required, along with a check of platter speed (read and become familiar with details in the e-manual in the library section of this site), along with a check of the health of the cartridge and stylus on the TT. Take some time to check the status of the tonearm settings, (zero balance tonearm, set tracking weight). Cartridges generally don't wear out, and replacement styli are not expensive for more common cartridges. A couple of drops of quality light machine oil on the spindle under the platter is recommended as well. A few easy steps, none of them very challenging or daunting to ensure a more enjoyable audio experience. When ready, set the needle down gently on a test record to ensure everything is as it should be (a record you have no real attachment to). Welcome to the site and the hobby, and your father would be proud. Best regards! :)

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by chrissy46 » 21 Sep 2019 04:03

Thank you :) his turntable was probably his most prized possession, so I'm glad to hear it's a good one!

I did get a new stylus because the one it had was broken. It's a Styli Shure N91ED G, according to the package. It says 'Diamond Needle'.

The Sony home theater system is probably from 2008ish?/late 2000s.

The turntable cords needed a good cleaning, as they were not stored well, but the tonearm and mat, etc. were protected by the dust cover so they look like they are in good shape. I have no idea about the platter speed, tonearm settings, balance, tracking weight... I'll have to read up on those.

My daughter randomly chose a CCR album to help me test it out (apparently good taste is genetic lol), so I hope I didn't scratch anything by playing around with it! Should the 'cueing' be set to high or low?

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by Alec124c41 » 21 Sep 2019 13:37

You can find the manual for the SL-D202 here:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/tec ... d202.shtml
That should help.

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by Van_Isle » 30 Sep 2019 01:20

The cueing raises the tonearm off the record, and lowers it. So when playing it should be set to 'low'. Does yours work? If not it may need adjustment, or potentially (as I've seen with a number of this type of Technics) a part is broken in the cueing mechanism.

But as Alec says, the owner's manual runs you through all the basics of set-up and use for the turntable.

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by vinyl master » 30 Sep 2019 07:53

I love my D202, Chrissy...It's a fantastic turntable and I have a nice Ortofon Concorde STD cartridge for it! :D

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I wrote all about it here, too!

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... 18&t=96822

Personally, while the surround sound receiver may work if you have the proper phono inputs or a separate phono preamp, I'm of the school that likes to keep vintage with vintage, and many of the older receivers of the era of your turntable had the preamp built right in and can sound fantastic! =D> Surround sound/home theater/AVR equipment can be fine for movies and special effects, but for music, which is special, you need a dedicated 2-channel set-up to get the most out of your records! If I knew where you lived generally, I might be able to make some local recommendations that you could check out in person...This thread will give you an idea of what to look for...

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... hp?t=67559

And if you think it can't be done on a budget, read this...

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_f ... 85&t=88346

While some models may be better than others, vintage names to look for include Harman Kardon, Sansui, Yamaha, Onkyo, Pioneer, Kenwood, Luxman, Superscope, JVC, Marantz, Denon, Scott, Realistic, Sony, Sherwood, and of course, Technics!

Plus, a receiver is just another name for an amplifier just has a radio tuner built in...You could also look for a separate tuner-and-amplifier combo or a standalone preamp...The receivers are generally more widely available and fairly plentiful on the used market...I have quite a few and although I spent a little more for my Sansui, I have quite a few receivers that were $50 and under...It took some patience, TLC and a little sweat, but all were worth it! :D

You will also need some speakers, if you don't have any, but those are more subjective...It helps to audition those personally with your own ears, as not everyone will like the same sounds...You're gonna live with this equipment for a while, so it's important to get something you like and will not fatigue your ears after repeated listens...It's always a good idea to test out any equipment if you can before you buy it, too...You will pay a little more for something "recapped" or "refurbished", but there are still deals to be had, if you don't mind doing a little work yourself, such as cleaning the controls and pots with De-Oxit...Here's a great guide for using De-Oxit, too...

https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php ... ed.207005/

And I still say that even if you take it somewhere, say to a professional repair shop (I can probably recommend someone there, too...), the cost and effort is totally worth it in order to keep listening to your music for years to come! Many times, these shops can also diagnose any issues for a small fee and then, let you decide if you want to proceed with any further repairs that need doing...Let me know where you're at generally, and I could probably dig up some local candidates in your area for you to check out, if you're interested...I've been pretty good at this for years now and have helped quite a few members find the missing pieces they didn't know they needed...In any case, what have you got to lose??? :-k

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by chrissy46 » 06 Oct 2019 22:41

Thanks so much! I am in SC in the Columbia area. Definitely willing to look into different options, but also don't want to spend a ton. I appreciate any help

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Re: Technics SL-D202 - help please!

Post by vinyl master » 07 Oct 2019 12:52

Here are a couple of repair places I'd recommended before to people, South Carolina's specialists in vintage audio...One in Greenville to the north and one in Huger (near Charleston) to the south...

http://donjonesstereo.com/
http://www.eliteaudiorepair.com/audiorepair/index.php

Audio Sound Solutions also sounds like an option...

https://www.audiosoundsolutions.com/services

Regarding receivers and amplifiers, if you were looking locally for something vintage, here are a couple under $100...

This one may need some work, but Kenwood made some good stuff...

https://columbia.craigslist.org/ele/d/l ... 75314.html

There was also this one for $65...

https://columbia.craigslist.org/ele/d/l ... 28051.html

You know, you might want to make the trip up to Cherry Vintage Audio, as they have a ton of classic vintage receivers and at various price points...There's bound to be something there you might like and you can listen to them before buying...

https://greenville.craigslist.org/eld/d ... 38517.html

For a little more (but totally worth it) would be these two options...

https://greenville.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 69351.html
https://greenville.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 69218.html

Pioneer made some great products and I like the 780...

This guy's got a lot of stuff and might be worth making a call to...For instance, I like the Sherwood he has pictured...

https://greenville.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 71714.html

Here's a nice Kenwood amp-and-tuner combo, too...

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ele/d/ ... 21390.html

This one could be a diamond in the rough, as well, for $50...I like it!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 49153.html

https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php ... ue.171378/

Another place to check out that has some vintage electronics...Advent made some nice speakers, as well, but as I've said before, you have to listen to any speakers you are thinking of buying...You will be living with them for a while, so sound quality that won't fatigue the ears is a must!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 56047.html

For $30, here's another interesting project...At 15 watts per channel, not much, but akin to my Pioneer SX-450...

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ele/d/ ... 50472.html

This Yammy has a phono input, too...

https://greenville.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 16631.html

More stuff here, too...The CR-640 he has could be a fun project piece and worth rehabbing...

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/d ... 57037.html

That's just a start, but hopefully, something there will be of interest to you...Take a look and see what you think! :)

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