New Technics SL1200 MK7

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by VinylDan1 » 30 Jan 2019 22:38

Trying to get the word out, the MK7 is on sale (still a preorder) right now at Guitar Center for $999. If you said you would buy it if it was priced under $1K, nows the time. Your milage may vary. https://www.guitarcenter.com/Technics/S ... ductDetail

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 30 Jan 2019 23:19

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the SL-1200 tone arm is bad , I would have thought though at least on the high end G model Technics could have included damping.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Spinner45 » 31 Jan 2019 05:52

Shadowman82 wrote:
30 Jan 2019 23:19
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the SL-1200 tone arm is bad , I would have thought though at least on the high end G model Technics could have included damping.
Technics builds their machines with quality, always has.
However, they do not cater to the obsessed "audiophile" to the point of adding damping to their tonearms, and I doubt they ever will.

The stylus needs to track the groove precisely, and nimbly, thus ultra-low friction pivot bearings are mandatory.
Centering of the cantilever in the cartridge body is of utmost importance, and Technics knows this.
Because some records are slightly off-center due to manufacturing tolerences, the swaying, however small, can deflect the cantilever enough to cause imbalances in the reproduced sound.
Again, this requires a nimble and frictionless tonearm, able to follow the groove without hinderance.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 31 Jan 2019 23:26

Then why do so many people claim that adding damping to the Technics arm offers significant improvements ?

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by rewfew » 02 Feb 2019 16:40

Keep in mind the significance's described by audio maven's are usually hyperbolic. As mentioned, Technics build their products with quality and specifications that make it very good in it's stock form. Technics doesn't offer "upgrades" as other high end products like VPI does. KAB's damper makes a very competent tonearm a little bit better. It won't break the bank or burn down the house with what it does.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by raphaelmabo » 02 Feb 2019 17:17

BMRR wrote:
09 Jan 2019 17:35
I must say I'm very impressed that they were able to get the price of the 1200 Mk7 down to only $1200. For a real Technics, brand new, made in Japan, that is a steal.
Well, you may be not so impressed when you learn that the 1200 Mk7 - as the 1500 - is *not* made in Japan, it's made in Malaysia.
And suddenly, one understands how they could lower the price. According to What Hifi:
https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/techni ... l-1210-mk7

If you want a "Made in Japan" SL-1200, then the choice is the G or GR.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by chamaruco » 02 Feb 2019 17:25

Please don’t waste your time discussing about the location of the manufacturing... remember that most of Best Buy in electronics are made in China...marantz produces in Malaysia too...I would understand if this new toys are made of rubber or plastic...

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by raphaelmabo » 02 Feb 2019 17:35

chamaruco wrote:
02 Feb 2019 17:25
Please don’t waste your time discussing about the location of the manufacturing... remember that most of Best Buy in electronics are made in China...marantz produces in Malaysia too...I would understand if this new toys are made of rubber or plastic...
I have no problem with manufacturing in Malaysia, but according to What Hifi the 1200 Mk7 does not feel as solid as the more expensive G and GR-models. It probably has nothing to do with Malaysia, it's Technics cost cutting to lower the price.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by chamaruco » 02 Feb 2019 19:03

I agree.. reading about abs compound I’m quite concerned.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 02 Feb 2019 19:04

Of coarse it's not going to be as solid as the GR or G , I think both of those have heavier platters than the old SL-1200s . The more important question would be how this new MK7 compares to the older MK2-Mk5 tables . If you can afford the GR or G then yes obviously go with that one but not everyone has that kind of cash .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by BMRR » 02 Feb 2019 19:18

I have no problem with Malaysia. I have lots of Panasonic products made in Malaysia including my TV, my Blu Ray player, and my microwave. The microwave is 15+ years old and still works great.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by rewfew » 03 Feb 2019 00:07

raphaelmabo wrote:
02 Feb 2019 17:17
Well, you may be not so impressed when you learn that the 1200 Mk7 - as the 1500 - is *not* made in Japan, it's made in Malaysia.
And suddenly, one understands how they could lower the price.
Well that's nothing to cheer about. It only shows how capitalism has made the switch from the old centers of capitalism to the developing world. Where the labor is dirt cheap. In the old day's the cheaper models with lesser materials were made where the top of the line models were made. They're making inroads now towards the Chinese dominance of products rebadged under old recognized names. But not using an outside manufacturer to produce it. I think the 1500 C is particularly interesting for all the people asking on this forum, "what kind of table for a noob". Glad they brought this more elegant looking design back.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 03 Feb 2019 23:55

Yeah in any case this new MK7 would only be a "bad choice" if it was proven to be a lesser table compared to any of the old MK2-MK6 tables but we just don't know that . Even if it was of a lesser quality than those , it's probably still better than DD tables made by other companies .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Boltman92124 » 01 May 2019 17:34

BMRR wrote:
09 Jan 2019 18:03
Yeah, I'm not saying the Pioneer is bad; I'm saying the people who whine about the price of the Technics are being unrealistic. Lots of crybabies in other forums who wanted the Mk7 to be $400 or $600.
SL1200 Mk7 is shipping in June according to Turntable Lab. Street price is $999 everywhere it seems. That should effectively kill the used 1200 market when you can stay under a grand for brand new. Kinda tempted. The other TT I like is the Thorens TD-203 which is also $999.

Need to save some money starting today I think.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Sterling1 » 02 May 2019 00:38

I think the Technics SL-1200 Mk.7 will be a game changer, bringing an end to the era of belt drive, minimalist feature, MDF Plinth turntables.