New Technics SL1200 MK7

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Sterling1 » 16 Jan 2019 18:27

Boltman92124 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 17:57
Sterling1 wrote:
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Right! I didn't see Panasonic/Technics filing lawsuits against Hanpin! Maybe they even invested in Hanpin under the table to get the market going again.

PS- Looking at your system, I can't help but wonder if you have some Grateful Dead in your history? :-k
No sir, no Grateful Dead in my history. My taste is eclectic for sure though: The Rolling Stones, Joan Armatrading, Ben Webster, Bill Evans, Phil Collins, Scott Hamilton, John Coltrane, and Diana Krall are leaders in my music library.
Nice. Was taking a gander at your DAT machines. A regular staple for any GD collector. I still have a 1,000 tape collection..most of which has been ripped to my hard drives/server.
My DAT Recorders are my pride and joy. I did not know about the connection of DATs to GD. I must live a sheltered life. Don't know if you saw my pic of whole system or close up of one of the DAT Recorders. Here's the close up again. I'm hoping that I eventually can find someone to service my units. Last service to repair spastic Time-Code cost me $850 and I had to ship from Louisville, KY to LA.
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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Boltman92124 » 16 Jan 2019 20:25

Sterling1 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 18:27
Boltman92124 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 17:57
Sterling1 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 17:51

No sir, no Grateful Dead in my history. My taste is eclectic for sure though: The Rolling Stones, Joan Armatrading, Ben Webster, Bill Evans, Phil Collins, Scott Hamilton, John Coltrane, and Diana Krall are leaders in my music library.
Nice. Was taking a gander at your DAT machines. A regular staple for any GD collector. I still have a 1,000 tape collection..most of which has been ripped to my hard drives/server.
My DAT Recorders are my pride and joy. I did not know about the connection of DATs to GD. I must live a sheltered life. Don't know if you saw my pic of whole system or close up of one of the DAT Recorders. Here's the close up again. I'm hoping that I eventually can find someone to service my units. Last service to repair spastic Time-Code cost me $850 and I had to ship from Louisville, KY to LA.24641850610_4da97510b2_z.jpg
Nice. Yes, they need servicing and it is not easy. Most people just toss the decks. GD Tapers went from cassette to DAT in the late 80's early 90's. The portable DAT machines in the taping section at shows and the home decks for playback. My Denon is a Japanese version and has the AC converter. Pretty rare in the US. It works OK but definitely shows it's age with old DAT tapes. I usually need to Forward/Rewind each tape before playback. I only use it for fun every now and then. Everything is on CD or my server now.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 16 Jan 2019 23:08

Why would Technics have sued Hanpin anyway ? Sure those Hanpin tables have a similar look and set up but Technics does not own a patent on the look of their SL-1200s . They know very well that those Hanpin tables can't match their SL-1200s in terms of quality and performance .

Of coarse the GAE and G are not going to sell like fresh bread , they are much too expensive for that . Maybe the GR a little more . But yes they had no table that was cheap enough to compete with those other DJ tables , that's why they made this new MK7 . No they won't sell as many as they used to but I don't think they are expecting to sell as many as they did in the heyday of Vinyl .

I think the biggest problem Technics have at this point is that so few retailers both online and in stores carry any of their new SL-1200s .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Sterling1 » 17 Jan 2019 02:06

Boltman92124 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 20:25
Sterling1 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 18:27
Boltman92124 wrote:
16 Jan 2019 17:57


Nice. Was taking a gander at your DAT machines. A regular staple for any GD collector. I still have a 1,000 tape collection..most of which has been ripped to my hard drives/server.
My DAT Recorders are my pride and joy. I did not know about the connection of DATs to GD. I must live a sheltered life. Don't know if you saw my pic of whole system or close up of one of the DAT Recorders. Here's the close up again. I'm hoping that I eventually can find someone to service my units. Last service to repair spastic Time-Code cost me $850 and I had to ship from Louisville, KY to LA.24641850610_4da97510b2_z.jpg
Nice. Yes, they need servicing and it is not easy. Most people just toss the decks. GD Tapers went from cassette to DAT in the late 80's early 90's. The portable DAT machines in the taping section at shows and the home decks for playback. My Denon is a Japanese version and has the AC converter. Pretty rare in the US. It works OK but definitely shows it's age with old DAT tapes. I usually need to Forward/Rewind each tape before playback. I only use it for fun every now and then. Everything is on CD or my server now.
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That Denon is really sweet. BTW, I usually, need to warm my DAT Recorder up for an hour or two to get them to run properly. Then I run them for about 15 minutes at least once a month. I've discovered this thwarts deterioration. So far, it seems to be working. I do the same thing with my Compact Cassette Recorder. At any rate, your Denon is awesome. I hope you can enjoy it for years to come.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by soundesinger » 23 Jan 2019 13:12

I saw this video of Derrick May playing - I think turntables weren't set up accordingly hence needle skipped etc Unless there was something wrong with decks themselves which I doubt...
I play in clubs quite often recently and never seen turntables set up properly - I have to do this myself every time and they perform great!
Two years ago I was going to get a pair of 1200 GRs but cancelled order last minute...it was just too expensive for me!
I spoken with local hifi shop owner and asked about those GRs, and he said they do sell but it's audiophiles and the like buying them no DJs sadly...
Anyway I think those new MK7s are quite attractive price wise, plus they look rather sexy! I might be getting them sometime soon once I sell my old MK2s...hopefully they last forever like old decks did.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by anmpr1 » 23 Jan 2019 20:42

Boltman92124 wrote:
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When Volkswagon opened their Mexico plant the quality went right in the toilet..sorry to say. Had one of each. Not saying the same for Technics though. I've seen the GR as low as $1,700.00.
Not my experience. I recently turned in a '15 GTI Autobahn lease, and currently drive an '18 Audi Q5, both put together in Mexico. Both of these vehicle's fit and finish were/are as good as any of my Euro VW products (Passat, CC, Audi 90 and A4).

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 25 Jan 2019 21:49

Yeah I really wouldn't be worried about the quality of these new MK7s .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Boltman92124 » 25 Jan 2019 22:03

anmpr1 wrote:
23 Jan 2019 20:42
Boltman92124 wrote:
10 Jan 2019 22:08
When Volkswagon opened their Mexico plant the quality went right in the toilet..sorry to say. Had one of each. Not saying the same for Technics though. I've seen the GR as low as $1,700.00.
Not my experience. I recently turned in a '15 GTI Autobahn lease, and currently drive an '18 Audi Q5, both put together in Mexico. Both of these vehicle's fit and finish were/are as good as any of my Euro VW products (Passat, CC, Audi 90 and A4).
Yeah mine were much older. 1995 Passat built in Germany lasted 10 years and mint when I sold it. 2004 Jetta from Mexico plant..worst car experience I ever had.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 25 Jan 2019 22:29

Apologies if this was answered before, but does this deck feature quartz lock ?

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 27 Jan 2019 22:23

I'm not sure . Seems all of the new SL-1200s use some kind of speed technology derived from Blu-ray somehow . Wether they still use "Quartz lock" I don't know . But looking at the specs of all new SL-1200s I would not be worried at all about speed stability , they're going to be better than allot of belt drives and lesser quality DD turntables .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Boltman92124 » 28 Jan 2019 16:07

Shadowman82 wrote:
27 Jan 2019 22:23
I'm not sure . Seems all of the new SL-1200s use some kind of speed technology derived from Blu-ray somehow . Wether they still use "Quartz lock" I don't know . But looking at the specs of all new SL-1200s I would not be worried at all about speed stability , they're going to be better than allot of belt drives and lesser quality DD turntables .
They all have a new "coreless" motor that eliminates the "cogging" of the old style 1200's. The cogging was from the Quartz speed control from what I read.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by rewfew » 29 Jan 2019 16:19

If the old 1200 had cogging, it's inaudible. Technics writes their new motor is free from it, (and it is), but so was the older motor. I feel this cogging issue was a result of naysayers of the audiophile press back when the old 1200 was becoming popular as an "audiophile" table in the guise of a dj table. That aspect brought out with nose holding by the audio elite was an affront to their preconceived notions of what constituted excellent performance. Mainly, high price.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Spinner45 » 29 Jan 2019 17:55

rewfew wrote:
29 Jan 2019 16:19
If the old 1200 had cogging, it's inaudible. Technics writes their new motor is free from it, (and it is), but so was the older motor. I feel this cogging issue was a result of naysayers of the audiophile press back when the old 1200 was becoming popular as an "audiophile" table in the guise of a dj table. That aspect brought out with nose holding by the audio elite was an affront to their preconceived notions of what constituted excellent performance. Mainly, high price.
If any so-called cogging was going on, surely the platter's momentum and inertia removed anything below hearable levels.
And I'm sure that Technics, being a company with a well-deserved reputation for quality, made sure their equipment passed their stringent tests and designed accordingly.
Nevertheless, some people, reviewers included, have to argue about and critique anything they can.

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by Shadowman82 » 29 Jan 2019 21:50

Yeah I have an older SL-1200 and it sounds great to me and I like the fact that the SL-1200 are much better with speed accuracy than allot of belt drives . If anything could be critiqued about the SL-1200s old and new it might be the tone arm , other tables have better ones .

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Re: New Technics SL1200 MK7

Post by rewfew » 30 Jan 2019 01:29

Shadowman82 wrote:
29 Jan 2019 21:50
If anything could be critiqued about the SL-1200s old and new it might be the tone arm , other tables have better ones .
That's another thing about the old and new 1200 that after critics acquiesced to the notion of the motor drive might be worth while after all, the next nit pick is the tonearm. Though it may not be the absolute piece of swiveling hardware contrived. With the KAB damping trough added, it's a very competent tonearm. What amount of money to vastly improve performance constitutes the worth of yanking it off and doing a transplant with some other pricey swiveling hardware. Maybe costing more than the table itself.