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Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 30 Aug 2019 18:31
by ddietiker
bernard1 wrote:
30 Aug 2019 09:04
mc1b is the second person in this thread that change the original mat for a custom one. Is the original one so bad?
No, the rubber mat is good, but the Funk Achromat does make a very noticeable difference. Read a review on avforum.com so I thought I would give it a try.

https://www.avforums.com/review/technic ... view.16305

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 30 Aug 2019 21:37
by andybeau
Never had a problem with the rubber mat on my 1200mk2 or 1200gr, go figure

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 04 Sep 2019 20:25
by mc1b
LOL if a Herbie's mat is audio jewelry then my 2004 Subaru is a premium SUV. trying different things is what makes the hobby fun for many. i def plan to A/B with the Technics mat. i am really loving the SL-1500c

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 05 Sep 2019 23:23
by ddietiker
mc1b wrote:
04 Sep 2019 20:25
LOL if a Herbie's mat is audio jewelry then my 2004 Subaru is a premium SUV. trying different things is what makes the hobby fun for many. i def plan to A/B with the Technics mat. i am really loving the SL-1500c
Playing around is fun. Using your car analogy, nothing was wrong with the carburetor on my ‘70 SS396, didn’t keep me from swapping it out :D

And I’m enjoying my SL-1500c also.

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 05 Sep 2019 23:50
by cafe latte
andybeau wrote:
30 Aug 2019 21:37
Never had a problem with the rubber mat on my 1200mk2 or 1200gr, go figure
Never really noticed much difference with mats, IMO just a way to spend more money.
Rubber is quite heavy and damps quite well so dont see much reason to swap it.
Chris

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 07 Sep 2019 15:56
by majick47
Agree with Café Latte that it's a waste of money swapping out mats, tried the Herbie's on a SP-25 and no notable difference from the stock Technics mat. Doubt Technics after all these years would drop the ball on an item like the platter mat.

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 07 Sep 2019 17:42
by abs1
majick47 wrote:
07 Sep 2019 15:56
Agree with Café Latte that it's a waste of money swapping out mats, tried the Herbie's on a SP-25 and no notable difference from the stock Technics mat. Doubt Technics after all these years would drop the ball on an item like the platter mat.
I suppose some people just enjoy buying audio jewelry, doesn't matter if there's any sonic benefit to it. Then many will swear how much it improves the sound even if nobody else hears it. Confirmation bias!

But no matter, it's their money and I'm not about to embark on the Quixotic journey of trying to save anyone from themselves :lol:

Cheers,
Al

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 07 Sep 2019 17:51
by rlwings
I use an extra mat as a way to raise the arm to achieve proper VTA for my cart. That can indirectly make a sonic difference. Plus I really love the elimination of static with an acrylic mat... So mine actually serves a real purpose.

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 12 Sep 2019 15:26
by rewfew
KABUSA is a dealer for this table now it seems. With some of their proprietary upgrades included. If I was looking at a new turntable, this sure would peak my interest. Really like the looks of the 1500C. https://www.kabusa.com/SL1500CSE.htm

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 27 Oct 2019 22:08
by brian00000brian
Are the cue level problems ubiquitous?

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 28 Oct 2019 12:34
by Issuesman666
How is the quality of the built in phono preamp?

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 30 Oct 2019 01:12
by brian00000brian
Issuesman666 wrote:
28 Oct 2019 12:34
How is the quality of the built in phono preamp?
Very good according to this "not a review":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeP1glycrrk

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 12 Nov 2019 14:05
by goatbreath
brian00000brian wrote:
27 Oct 2019 22:08
Are the cue level problems ubiquitous?
I have a bit of ERM!! Cuers Droop,the arm lifter sometimes doesn't stay up,
it gets forgiven for killing my LP12 dead with sound quality and tracking ability..
I also hate to say,I have finally admitted to myself it is better than my Technics SL110 with SME 3009 S2 detachable,
as far as how good the sound is.
The arm is a miles better tracker than my 3009s and Regas..

I ended up getting the cheaper Pro-Ject Ground it E isolation platform..
I don't keep as well as I used to and don't have all the stuff for DIY,or a shed etc..
I kind of grudged the money until it arrived and then I used it..
It was £110 but Actually really good quality,you can't see the gloss piano black finish in the picture really,
it is a substantial beast .It makes my Mission Isoplat look like a joke..
This photo doest do it justice..All I know is it is the most solid,chiming and clean I have heard Piano notes..
The most real I have ever heard cymbals..
The best I have been able to identify the pitch of bass notes on Jazz Records and more..
I have some nice turntables myself,I have owned many more and listened to even more than that..
I can't believe the sound coming from the 1500 C..

My Ground it tweak has improved things further..
Quite a bit more than I expected,,I just wanted a platform I could get things level and a bit of isolation..
It seems to work really well in Combination with the Technics though..
I can't hear any colouration,but I haven't tried removing the turntable lid yet..
I know this has improved all my other turntables..
Even with the lid on my 1500 C seems streets ahead of my other turntables.
To think I used to listen to the Hifi press and wouldn't have touched a Technics..
Maybe the new ones really are even better though..
I think it is obvious I love mine..
techie 1.jpg
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I got Spike shoes,I think they were £4.50 on Ebay..

https://vod.ebay.co.uk/vod/FetchOrderDe ... noapp=true

On the bottom of them I put these..

,https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36x-3M-Silic ... kYnySLiZLg


I had them leftover from renewing my melted rubber support bits on my other Rack..
I didn't fancy putting steel on glass...
that sounds a resonant recipe to me..

I am using an Audio Technica AT VM 95 ML in the accompanying AT headshell..
Not a bit of Bass lightness or over brightness in my experience..
It really sounds stunning,way beyond when I used a Jico SAS in a Shure V15 III..
I think there is synergy going on though..
The Denon DL110 sounds stunning in this arm too..

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 12 Nov 2019 20:17
by cafe latte
goatbreath wrote:
12 Nov 2019 14:05
brian00000brian wrote:
27 Oct 2019 22:08
Are the cue level problems ubiquitous?
I have a bit of ERM!! Cuers Droop,the arm lifter sometimes doesn't stay up,
it gets forgiven for killing my LP12 dead with sound quality and tracking ability..
I also hate to say,I have finally admitted to myself it is better than my Technics SL110 with SME 3009 S2 detachable,
as far as how good the sound is.
The arm is a miles better tracker than my 3009s and Regas..

I ended up getting the cheaper Pro-Ject Ground it E isolation platform..
I don't keep as well as I used to and don't have all the stuff for DIY,or a shed etc..
I kind of grudged the money until it arrived and then I used it..
It was £110 but Actually really good quality,you can't see the gloss piano black finish in the picture really,
it is a substantial beast .It makes my Mission Isoplat look like a joke..
This photo doest do it justice..All I know is it is the most solid,chiming and clean I have heard Piano notes..
The most real I have ever heard cymbals..
The best I have been able to identify the pitch of bass notes on Jazz Records and more..
I have some nice turntables myself,I have owned many more and listened to even more than that..
I can't believe the sound coming from the 1500 C..

My Ground it tweak has improved things further..
Quite a bit more than I expected,,I just wanted a platform I could get things level and a bit of isolation..
It seems to work really well in Combination with the Technics though..
I can't hear any colouration,but I haven't tried removing the turntable lid yet..
I know this has improved all my other turntables..
Even with the lid on my 1500 C seems streets ahead of my other turntables.
To think I used to listen to the Hifi press and wouldn't have touched a Technics..
Maybe the new ones really are even better though..
I think it is obvious I love mine..

techie 1.jpg


I got Spike shoes,I think they were £4.50 on Ebay..

https://vod.ebay.co.uk/vod/FetchOrderDe ... noapp=true

On the bottom of them I put these..

,https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36x-3M-Silic ... kYnySLiZLg


I had them leftover from renewing my melted rubber support bits on my other Rack..
I didn't fancy putting steel on glass...
that sounds a resonant recipe to me..

I am using an Audio Technica AT VM 95 ML in the accompanying AT headshell..
Not a bit of Bass lightness or over brightness in my experience..
It really sounds stunning,way beyond when I used a Jico SAS in a Shure V15 III..
I think there is synergy going on though..
The Denon DL110 sounds stunning in this arm too..
Spikes on a turntable are not good at all at isolation. Spikes actually couple the turntable to the shelf making the shelf part of the plinth. Best turntable feet are Sorbothane.
Chris

Re: Technics SL-1500C - Coming soon...

Posted: 12 Nov 2019 20:40
by goatbreath
If I was using a suspended turntable,I would get a thinner lighter piece of board and
place it on top of the Ground It with sorbothane feet as the feet of the lighter board..
I am still experimenting with what to place direct drives on..
All the records but one have sounded great with the SL1500 C..
A slight adjustment of Antiskate seems to have done the trick in sorting that I think..

The feet on the 1500 C also have damping properties..
The Ground it claims to be an improvement..
The Piano notes are cleaner than on a Townshend Siesmik Sink..
So it must be doing something positive..

I will do a still needle on record test and advance the volume and see what happens..
If there is no feedback,things must be OK..

Plus why would Project sell a product to make their turntables sound worse..??

I am not that experienced with direct drive decks,but others have told be to put them on something solid,
they behave differently from suspended decks...