Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

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Re: Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

Post by Shadowman82 » 14 Oct 2019 21:12

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Re: Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

Post by gpjgonzo » 20 Oct 2019 01:57

SchillerM wrote:
15 Sep 2019 20:49
Disappointed in the rubber mat thickness, vs the MK2 it's very thin and light weight.
Matt
I ended up putting the Technics thick mat on my 1210GR only to improve the VTA. The arm is more horizontal with the thick mat:
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Re: Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

Post by Sterling1 » 20 Oct 2019 10:45

gpjgonzo wrote:
20 Oct 2019 01:57
SchillerM wrote:
15 Sep 2019 20:49
Disappointed in the rubber mat thickness, vs the MK2 it's very thin and light weight.
Matt
I ended up putting the Technics thick mat on my 1210GR only to improve the VTA. The arm is more horizontal with the thick mat:
The mat furnished on the GR is ideal for 18mm tall cartridges. I have several 15mm tall carts and thus the furnished mat is not ideal and the only fix is cartridge shimming and/or a thicker mat. I decided shimming would be more appropriate and thus I placed a 2mm shim between cart and headshell to end up with a 17mm high cart which levels at the 0 VTA adjustment position. I do not believe there's any evidence out there that the properties of a thicker mat effect the character of the sound from the record. However, I do know that while a thicker mat may better level a cartridge that is less than 17mm tall, the result may still require shimming and/or re-adjustment of VTA for the best sound from the record. This is why I chose to just shim as required to get an exacting result solely from the TT's VTA adjustment feature.
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Re: Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

Post by Shadowman82 » 20 Oct 2019 23:02

I always wondered why Technics chooses to supply the GR and G with the thinner mat . I guess they feel with the new platter being better they don't need a thick mat . That being said if I ever got a GR or G you bet I would keep the thicker mat of my old SL-1200 as well .

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Re: Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

Post by gpjgonzo » 21 Oct 2019 06:50

Shadowman82 wrote:
20 Oct 2019 23:02
I always wondered why Technics chooses to supply the GR and G with the thinner mat . I guess they feel with the new platter being better they don't need a thick mat . That being said if I ever got a GR or G you bet I would keep the thicker mat of my old SL-1200 as well .
I am not worried about damping as the platter is indeed stellar. What bothers me with the thin mat is the VTA. The arm can't be lowered enough, it bottoms out.

My Denon DL-301MK2 has a height of 18mm when going by the diagram on page 20 in the manual. The manual says to set the height control at setting 1. At the same time the illustration on the same page says to keep the tonearm parallel to the record. :?:

There is way too much angle at setting 1. A little better at setting zero but still angled. It is only when I use the Technics thick mat when the arm is acceptably parallel to the record.

Edit: One thing I didn't think of though, is that I am not using the Technics head shell and the mounting surface is most likely lower (closer to the platter) than my Orsonic shell .... that has to be it ....

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Re: Technics SL-1200GR Worth Every Penny

Post by Shadowman82 » 21 Oct 2019 22:35

Yeah that would be different if you are using a different headshell . But anyway using the thicker mat won't hurt anything .

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