Lp120 USB exchange for LP 120X USB

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Lp120 USB exchange for LP 120X USB

Post by Canadianguy51 » 12 Oct 2019 00:45

I need some thoughts on this, I'm a listener more then Dj. I bought this as a floor model 3 weeks ago and still have 3 days left on warranty. I seen in the store that this new Lp120X is in and it's dropped it's price for the same as what I paid. I'm able to exchange it or get the 50 dollar cash price drop. I read this some improvements with the X. Like the preamp disabled has more high end to it now. Tone arm is not adjustable any more but level and the cartridge is nicer, I know i just bought one week ago....I do like the look of the original more, but sound is more important..


Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Turntables Look Very Similar. What are the Differences Between These Models?

Drive method
All three models use direct drive as the drive method. The center spindle that the record platter is attached to is a part of the motor itself. Since the spindle is turning the platter – no additional parts, such as a belt or idler wheel, are required – the platter is said to be directly driven. The direct-drive design provides excellent record speed stability, enables quick speed changes and startup times, and is very durable. We use a different direct-drive motor in each of these turntables for various reasons.

The original AT-LP120-USB model uses a high-torque (1.6 kgf.cm) motor with a reverse direction and two pitch adjustment ranges, +/-10% and +/- 20%. This motor provides quick starts and stops and is suitable for light commercial use in addition to casual use at home. The motor offers a good compromise between features, performance and fidelity.

The latest generation of the turntable, the AT-LP120XUSB, uses a slightly lower torque motor (1.0 kgf.cm) that does not have a reversible direction, but, in part, this motor enables the turntable to have higher overall fidelity due to its lower-noise design. In fact, the noise floor of the LP120XUSB turntable is so low even low-output Moving Coil (MC) type phono cartridges requiring additional amplification may be used with it. Two pitch adjustment ranges, +/-8% and +/-16%, are provided. Offering a higher fidelity listening experience, the AT-LP120XUSB is suitable for casual or critical listening at home. Its motor is a good compromise between cost, performance and fidelity.

With a starting torque of 2.2 kgf.cm, the AT-LP140XP turntable has the highest torque motor of the three. It is a professional-quality turntable designed for commercial use, but the well-damped chassis and platter make it suitable for home use as well. This motor features a reversible direction and offers three pitch adjustment ranges, +/-8%, +/-16% and +/- 24%.

Speeds
All models feature three electronically selectable speeds, 33-1/3, 45 and 78 RPM, and a high-accuracy variable pitch control with quartz speed lock. A stroboscopic platter with speed indicator permits a visual confirmation of speed/pitch selection.

Cartridge

All models include an Audio-Technica phono cartridge pre-mounted to a standard half-inch mount headshell. The AT-LP120-USB turntable uses our AT-HS1 headshell. Both the AT-LP120XUSB and AT-LP140XP turntables use our new AT-HS6 headshell. All styli are user replaceable. The AT-LP120-USB turntable comes fitted with the AT95E cartridge, the AT-LP120XUSB comes fitted with an updated version of the AT95E, the AT-VM95E, and the AT-LP140XP comes with the AT-XP3, which is our entry-level DJ cartridge. The replacement stylus for the AT95E cartridge is the ATN95E; there are no other stylus options available from Audio-Technica for this cartridge. But there are a number of replacement styli available for the AT-VM95E cartridge, including a 78 RPM stylus. All styli in the AT-VM95 Series are interchangeable: It is not necessary to replace the entire cartridge should you want to upgrade the sound of the turntable, simply replace the stylus with a higher-quality model. Same goes for the XP Series – all styli are interchangeable in this series as well. Styli are also interchangeable between the AT-VM95 Series and the XP Series of DJ cartridges. Note that the output level of the cartridges in the XP Series is higher than that of the cartridges in the AT-VM95 Series. When an AT-VMN95 Series replacement stylus is fitted to an XP Series cartridge body, the higher output level of the XP series cartridge will be realized.

Connections
The AT-LP120-USB uses a permanently attached analog audio cable terminated with male Left and Right RCA-type plugs. Thanks to a built-in switchable RIAA phono preamplifier, these plugs can be connected to either RCA-style PHONO input jacks or to line level input jacks (such as AUX, LINE or CD) on a device. Via a provided USB cable, a USB port on the rear panel allows the turntable to be connected to a computer for digitizing records using the audio recording and editing program that was provided. On the AT-LP120XUSB turntable, the RCA cable is no longer permanently attached; it plugs into RCA jacks on the rear panel instead. Additionally, a dedicated ground wire is integrated into the cable to help minimize any hum. A USB cable is also provided. Installing the recording software of your choice enables conversion of your records to digital audio files. The built-in phono preamplifier is an improved design providing extended high-frequency response. The AT-LP140XP turntable also has RCA jacks on the rear panel and includes an RCA cable with integrated ground wire. The AT-LP140XP does not have a built-in phono preamplifier or a USB port, however.

Power Supply

Both the AT-LP120-USB and AT-LP140XP turntables use a detachable AC power cord. AC to DC conversion is done inside the turntable. The AT-LP120XUSB turntable uses an AC adapter that handles AC/DC conversion outside the turntable, reducing noise in the

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Re: Lp120 USB exchange for LP 120X USB

Post by jvcforce » 14 Oct 2019 16:16

If I were you, I'd just get $50 cash compensation from the store. I'd presume that your AT turntable is a good batch, no issues. Preamp bypassing is not that hard, so I'd just open it up and rewire it (if you are not comfortable with modding, then I can understand your dilemma.)

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Re: Lp120 USB exchange for LP 120X USB

Post by Canadianguy51 » 14 Oct 2019 17:57

Well I thought long and hard and I decided to just go for the straight exchange for the 120X and i'm a 100% happier. Plus it's brand new and not a scuffed up floor model. I liked the 120 but I just thought there was to many thing not working even though you could fix them.

I already had the VM95e and since It came with that, i still had sometime to send it back to Amazon for a full refund!

Here is why I like it:

- The preamp is fixed now the audio is 100% better when listening with your own preamp on phono mode,sound not muffled anymore, it's opened up now!
- The tonearm level is fixed
- No platter wobble anymore, If you had it.
- The light is now adjustable, turning it side to side or just take right out.
- Anti skating fixed now, if you had that problem
- Better cartridge VM95e
- I like the more flat black look then the glossy black, which showed scuffs, scratches etc especially with the floor model I had.
- The feet are all adjustable
- I don't get any platter noise anymore even when cleaning, which I love:)

Things gone:

- No adjustable tone arm anymore, I don't need anyways since this cartridge has stylus that go into the hundreds if ever needed upgrade
- No reverse anymore
- Lot of plastic still, not to bothered

Don't think i'm missing anything else

For me this was a no brainer! My 2 cents


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Re: Lp120 USB exchange for LP 120X USB

Post by jvcforce » 14 Oct 2019 20:02

Grad it worked out for you, I forgot the fact that it was a floor model, and they did improve the preamp section, which is great.

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Re: Lp120 USB exchange for LP 120X USB

Post by Canadianguy51 » 14 Oct 2019 20:48

This X is lighter, slimmer, but i dislike the 45 adapter [-X .. plastic I'll go and get aluminum one of Amazon.ca for 20....The 120 has a good weight to it.

The back of the TT now has a place to connect the ground to the table, using a shape spade connection everything is plugged into the back rca, usb, power, nothing is hanging off the back when you have to move it. I ran my little DJ Pre II phono amp ground to the table.....sounds amazing. i'm using a Denon AVR 689 and some Polk Audio book shelf's and a 10" sub which found out I can bi amp. I have it now bi amped not sure if there is much diffirence.
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