Wanted: Stylusless Ortofon Mc200u / Mc100u / Mcp200 / Mcp100

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Wanted: Stylusless Ortofon Mc200u / Mc100u / Mcp200 / Mcp100

Post by dlaloum » 12 Jun 2011 16:40

Hi Folks

I have a Ortofon MC200 stylus.... on an integrated body that does not fit my TT...

I am looking for a Universal (1/2") body or the p-mount body onto which to transplant the stylus


thanks

David

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Post by Alec124c41 » 13 Jun 2011 08:44

My, you are ambitious. That is not an interchangeable stylus.

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Post by dlaloum » 13 Jun 2011 08:50

Are you sure?

I have read several postings talking about the fact that the MC200 and MC100 have removeable and interchangeable styli....

Have not tried to remove the stylus on mine yet I must say (perhaps I should take a much closer look at mine...)

bye for now

David

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Post by Alec124c41 » 13 Jun 2011 08:56

I have the 1/2" one. The stylus does not come off, in spite of the similarity to the OM series.

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Post by dlaloum » 13 Jun 2011 09:03

Damn!

all for the lack of 2mm...

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Post by dlaloum » 15 Jun 2011 09:43

Good news - at least for me and perhaps for you too...

The MC200 stylus is DEFINITELY removeable...

1) It is specifically mentioned in the manual (which I need to copy and forward to JAS for the library!)
2) I have removed it and taken pics....

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The entire MC cartridge is in this tiny module - the rest of the cartridge body (whether p-mount, integrated SME, or 1/2") is really just a headshell....

I have a very similar Sony XL-MC104P - p-mount MC - I wish I could find one of the universal mounts for it! (although it works great in my p-mount adapters - but then I am running it into its p-mount host which mounts into the p-mount adapter which fits onto the headshell.... urgh - be nice to remove at least one of those steps!)

So I am continuing my hunt for a "broken" Ortofon MC200/MC100

Bye for now

David

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Post by Alec124c41 » 15 Jun 2011 10:42

OK, you got me.
But mine sure does not want to move.

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Post by dlaloum » 15 Jun 2011 11:02

I have to admit I thought the same initially - but first I noted the break line between stylus and shell - then I read the manual.... and I started to very gingerly mess with it (one slip and bye bye stylus!)

I looked more closely at both manual and cartridge after reading a posting on Audiokarma (I think?)...

bye for now

David

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Post by Japi Roelofs » 17 Jun 2011 15:25

I believe the old MM Concordes (10/20/30) work the same way; I accidentally ripped mine to pieces while trying to remove an ill-fitting stylus. The metal part in the front where the stylus slips on is in fact a shank that goes through the body. At the back end there's those same four gold plated poles that slide into a plastic housing, just like the MC200. Too bad I destroyed it...

I also have an MC100 Concorde, and the stylus can be interchanged with the 200.
When removing the stylus you have to be very carefull; it's a really tight fit, unlike the OM styli. Pull very, very slowly!

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Post by Japi Roelofs » 17 Jun 2011 16:08

Here's a picture of the ruined Concorde 10

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Post by dlaloum » 17 Jun 2011 16:27

Curiouser and curiouser!!

Are the concorde bodies the same?
Can an MC generator be plugged into a standard concorde body ?!

possibly not - it looks like the MI generator is deeper than the MC generator... would be nice to get them side by side for comparison!

I wonder whether the same plug-in module is used in the 1/2" OM bodies?

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Post by Japi Roelofs » 17 Jun 2011 16:34

I don't know about the newer "DJ" Concordes because I've never ripped one apart (yet) :D

The metal shaft pushes the plastic housing back into the body. The MC stylus would be too short. I guess... I'll give it a try!

Besides that: the old Concordes are really light-weight (6.5 grams)
The new Concordes are 18.5 grams, and the MC Concordes are 16.5 grams.

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Post by dlaloum » 17 Jun 2011 16:38

The thing I am wondering is whether it might be possible to mount the MC module to an OM body (after removing the MI module...)

I have at least 3 spare OM bodies... which I was planning on releasing into the wild.... (ebay).... but if I can turn one of them into an MC200U!?! Now that would be interesting....

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Post by Japi Roelofs » 17 Jun 2011 16:55

OMG... I tried it, and it works! I put the needle of the MC100 Concorde in the Concorde 10 body (not really a good fit, pushing it in is really hard, getting it off is even harder — I had to use pliers).
But Low and Behold... music!

This would probably mean you can take an old OM(B) body, rip out the metal shank and put your MC200 stylus in. At your own risk of course.

I'll post some pictures later....

Japi

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Post by Japi Roelofs » 17 Jun 2011 17:04

Edit: when I said 'needle' or 'stylus' I meant generator.
The MC type: stylus is integrated in generator
The Concorde / OM type: stylus slips on metal shank (= generator)

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