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Postby DopeyBovine » 12 Feb 2013 04:01

A question for all of you Planar 3 guys. I have started upgrading my 25 year old (that's right), and have so far installed the 24 volt motor, the white Rega drive belt, and new ceramic thrust bearing, and a Q Up arm lifter. The question is- what is next, that will give the most bang for the buck? I am considering a new Groovetracer reference sub platter and either sorbathane feet or spikes. Needless to say, I will be upgrading the cartridge without a doubt.

For a low mass table, like the Planar, I would think that sorbathane is best, but I'd like to hear from you spike users about that option. I already have the spike so that is a no-cost option if they are effective.

Other suggestions?

thanks...DB
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby Alec124c41 » 12 Feb 2013 04:16

With the platter off, lightly touch the point of a pencil to the turning sub-platter. Ths will tell you how smooth and round it is, or isn't.

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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby DopeyBovine » 12 Feb 2013 04:38

Great idea- thanks!
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby DopeyBovine » 12 Feb 2013 14:10

I checked the sub platter as you suggested, and found a rippling effect as it rotated. This seems to be caused by the injection molded part sinking slightly at each of the rdial ribs on the part. It would seem that a machined sub platter would be more accurate with respect to rotational smoothness. The ripples may be a cause of flutter or noise.

Thanks again for the suggestion.
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby Alec124c41 » 12 Feb 2013 18:10

DopeyBovine wrote:I checked the sub platter as you suggested, and found a rippling effect as it rotated. This seems to be caused by the injection molded part sinking slightly at each of the rdial ribs on the part. It would seem that a machined sub platter would be more accurate with respect to rotational smoothness. The ripples may be a cause of flutter or noise.

Thanks again for the suggestion.


Your deductions are right on.
Switching subs took my Planar 2 from unbearable to great.

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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby DopeyBovine » 12 Feb 2013 18:11

Alec- what replacement sub did you go with?
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby Alec124c41 » 12 Feb 2013 21:33

I tried this a few years ago. I had other good turntables, Tried the Rega after neglecting it for a while, and was not pleased. Experimentally, I bought the cheapest I could find. Although the finish on the shaft was disappointing, the improvement was unmistakeable, and saved the Rega.
I now have a GrooveTracer, which is much better finished.
I think it was my posting of the results which started the flood. :lol:
IMHO this the best single upgrade for an old Rega. Any of the subs will be an improvement. Get what you can afford.

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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby aTALLasian » 13 Feb 2013 02:19

I was in your position a about a year ago. My Planar 3 upgrade path went like this: 24v motor -> GrooveTracer subplatter -> TTPSU -> Lim dual pulley w/ white belts. I couldn't be happier with the transformation from it's original state to the way it sounds now. Might have to tackle replacing the bias belt here soon.

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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby james73_2008 » 13 Feb 2013 19:08

Groovetracer Reference sub-platter then a Michell Technoweight.


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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby tmaoahthfte » 14 Feb 2013 16:14

Haven't seen this before... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Subplat ... 2ec63f974b .. anybody tried one?
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby DopeyBovine » 15 Feb 2013 14:48

Thanks everyone for the input. I think that my next step is to get a better sub-platter, then see if I can improve isolation via new feet. Has anyone used Lim's metal/rubber feet, or can offer other suggestions? My big upgrade will be a new cartridge (suggestions are appreciated, either MC or MM types), getting the tonearm re-wired and upgradig to a better phono cable.

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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby tomytoons » 15 Feb 2013 14:58

Many of us here have recommended a Dyna 10X5 superb cartridge on the Rega.
I'm after a 20X2H now.
Pathos Classic One MKII, Clearaudio Emotion CMB Carbon Satisfy Arm, Usher CP6371, Monolithic PS1/Modwright Mod & Custom PS, Cinmag stepup, ATOC9/ML II, Dyna 10X5, Marantz SA15 S2 Ltd., all "Silver Series" WyWires.
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby jrobby » 15 Feb 2013 15:31

I would leave the stock feet on. They work best. Roy Gandy designed it to dissipate unwanted frequencies.Don't mess with what works.The incognito wiring upgrade works well. The Michell Tecnoweight is also a great upgrade. I have done both to my Nad 533, RB250 combo.I am using a Nagaoka MP-110 on the Nad. Would highly recommend the Denon DL-110 HOMC also.
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby eurekaiv » 15 Feb 2013 17:26

Aren't Lim's metal/rubber feet essentially a clone of the P9 feet?
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Re: Rega Planar 3 Upgrade- Next?

Postby DopeyBovine » 15 Feb 2013 19:31

Thanks much to all. I should probably let you that my system is- First Watt J2 amp, First Watt B1 passive pre/buffer, Pass Labs Xono phono stage, Marantz SA8004 SACD player, Rega Planar 3, Kimber interconnects, Cardas clone DIY speaker cables, and Lowther Alerion speakers. Sometimes it helps to know where one is starting.

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