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Postby GR350 » 10 Feb 2012 04:57

Seem that everyone pays a lot of attention to their equipment. I thought I would toss out a bit of info. I just bought a nifty little machinist level for setting up the turntable. Works like a charm and I think is very reasonably priced at around $30. Much more sensitive than your typical hardware store level. If you are interested look up a Starrett model 130 machinist bench level. You can order them from many tool dealers.
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Re: TT leveling

Postby mr.datsun » 10 Feb 2012 10:51

GR350 wrote:Seem that everyone pays a lot of attention to their equipment. I thought I would toss out a bit of info. I just bought a nifty little machinist level for setting up the turntable. Works like a charm and I think is very reasonably priced at around $30. Much more sensitive than your typical hardware store level. If you are interested look up a Starrett model 130 machinist bench level. You can order them from many tool dealers.


It looks very nice with it's crinkle black enamel finish. Personally I've always wondered how those tiny round 1" levels that hifi suppliers offer us could possibly get anything level. But the 130 costs £30.35 + VAT in the UK.
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Re: TT leveling

Postby nabil » 10 Feb 2012 21:25

If you have an iPhone there is a great app called Carpenter that contains a very sensitive leveler.
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Re: TT leveling

Postby GR350 » 11 Feb 2012 01:01

Mr.Datsun- You might check out "Level Developments". Located in the UK. The one that caught my eye was the GP15. 15'/1.5mm sensitivity. A bit better than the Starrett 130. Tried to get one but they don't have a distributor over here. Might be cheaper too. Anyway I just wasn't satisfied with the precision of carpenters levels. Started looking for something that had published data and was less expensive than a regular machinist level. This is what I came up with.
If you get one, I would be interested to know how it performs for you.
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Postby mr.datsun » 11 Feb 2012 01:41

GR350 wrote:Mr.Datsun- You might check out "Level Developments". Located in the UK. The one that caught my eye was the GP15. 15'/1.5mm sensitivity. A bit better than the Starrett 130. Tried to get one but they don't have a distributor over here. Might be cheaper too. Anyway I just wasn't satisfied with the precision of carpenters levels. Started looking for something that had published data and was less expensive than a regular machinist level. This is what I came up with.
If you get one, I would be interested to know how it performs for you.


GR350, thanks - but I can't find that part number on their website. Could you tell me what kind of level was it - or which section was it in?
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Re: TT leveling

Postby xyyyy » 11 Feb 2012 03:15

After leveling the turntable, I don't understand the need to leave a level on the table :? Is this to address ones stand getting bumped into, or the turntable getting 'manhandled'?
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Postby Alec124c41 » 11 Feb 2012 06:26

xyyyy wrote:After leveling the turntable, I don't understand the need to leave a level on the table :? Is this to address ones stand getting bumped into, or the turntable getting 'manhandled'?


It is for bragging purposes, or to make it easier to find the next time you need it. :lol:

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Re: TT leveling

Postby Rob998 » 11 Feb 2012 09:24

mr.datsun wrote:
GR350 wrote:Mr.Datsun- You might check out "Level Developments". Located in the UK. The one that caught my eye was the GP15. 15'/1.5mm sensitivity. A bit better than the Starrett 130. Tried to get one but they don't have a distributor over here. Might be cheaper too. Anyway I just wasn't satisfied with the precision of carpenters levels. Started looking for something that had published data and was less expensive than a regular machinist level. This is what I came up with.
If you get one, I would be interested to know how it performs for you.


GR350, thanks - but I can't find that part number on their website. Could you tell me what kind of level was it - or which section was it in?


Here you go. http://www.leveldevelopments.com/instru ... levels.htm That part number relates to a screw on level though? Don't suppose it matters as long as the base of the level is, er, level.
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Postby mr.datsun » 11 Feb 2012 12:56

Rob998 wrote:Here you go. http://www.leveldevelopments.com/instru ... levels.htm That part number relates to a screw on level though? Don't suppose it matters as long as the base of the level is, er, level.


Rob,thank-you. I think GP is General Purpose. It looks good but they don't seem to sell them in their online shop.

Have you also seen the circular ones on their shop? I'm not clear how to compare accuracy. Are they as good as the GP15?

http://www.leveldevelopments.com/acatal ... evels.html
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Re: TT leveling

Postby GR350 » 14 Feb 2012 05:43

I think I may have injected a bit of confusion here. A little explanation-
This started with the an e-mail to the Rega rep questioning how accurately the TT needed to be leveled. His reply was that although it does indeed need to be level, a carpenters level from the hardware store was probably sufficient. What bothered me was that I could not find any specifications on these types of levels. I'm not saying they are bad but I wanted to see some real numbers. This sent me on the quest for something with written specs. An on line search kicked out Level Developments and the GP15. I thought this might be a good choice because it had a reasonable sensitivity rating (probably a bit finer than most woodworking tools). I was not intending to permanently mount it. It became a moot point since they don't have a distributor in the states. So I bought the Starrett 130 because it has similar specs. No big deal guys. Just thought it might be something someone else would be interested in.
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Re: TT leveling

Postby Alec124c41 » 15 Feb 2012 03:33

Starrett makes very nice tools, a pleasure to handle and use.

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Re: TT leveling

Postby mr.datsun » 15 Feb 2012 18:03

If there was interest I could buy some GP15s. It's not as cute as the Starrett and is really designed for surface mounting. But it is made from stove enamelled black alloy and glass and boasts a high degree of accuracy. I think it's also much cheaper than the Starrett outside of the USA.

http://www.leveldevelopments.com/instru ... levels.htm

I'd need a bulk order of at least 7 to make it available from the manufacturer. It would be :

It'd be £7.15 + £8.50/7 + VAT
= £8.36 + VAT
= £10.04

Buyers would also have to pay the postage for their own unit from here (UK). I may post this in the main section but thought I'd start here.
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Re: TT leveling

Postby bacobits » 15 Feb 2012 20:06

When I level a TT I check level on the platter. The only time you can't do that is if it is concave a bit for clamping, most are not. I use a 1" round spirit level, plastic, from a lab instrument and a free 1" bubble lever from a clock installer. Not expensive stuff. I use a 6" and 36" longer for the rack shelving.
We're not running NASA here. :roll:
I'm being sarcastic.

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Re: TT leveling

Postby mr.datsun » 15 Feb 2012 21:50

bacobits wrote:When I level a TT I check level on the platter. The only time you can't do that is if it is concave a bit for clamping, most are not. I use a 1" round spirit level, plastic, from a lab instrument and a free 1" bubble lever from a clock installer. Not expensive stuff. I use a 6" and 36" longer for the rack shelving.
We're not running NASA here. :roll:
I'm being sarcastic.

Mr.D appreciate the consideration.


Bacobits, I'm so shocked. (;_;)
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