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Postby danpan » 08 Jun 2011 12:42

I have re-discovered a Toshiba direct drive turntable with an SME 3009 series 111s arm with fluid damper etc in the loft - not used for 20 plus years. I've taken it apart, cleaned and reassembled etc. It all works perfectly mechanically and looks fabulous. My regular record player is a planar 3 with RB300 arm but I do want to use the SME arm - mainly for its aesthetics.
Problem - I've only got £50 - 70 to spend on a cartridge. Can anyone advise on a cartridge within this sort of price range that would suit.
Please don't be too disparaging about the money!!!
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Postby smeg68 » 08 Jun 2011 13:42

You'll want something medium to high compliance for the SME unless you add weight at the headshell. I use a V15III/Jico SAS in mine and it sounds bloody great. You could use a Grado or a Goldring in there, they would suit the arm quite nicely too.
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Postby Eoin » 08 Jun 2011 15:00

An audio technica AT110e if you can find one is a good high compliance cartridge that I have been using on my SME III.

I've taken it off now in preference to a shure V15.

I'm up in Billingshurst and could lend you the AT if you wish to try it.

But basically any high compliance moving magnet cartridge is what you are looking for.

The problem with the V15 is potentially the age of them and the difficulty of sourcing stylus replacements. There are only old stock, used Shure stylus now and the aftermarket ones vary although any Jico or Ed Saunders stylii should be very good.

If you happen to come across the parts for the add on fluid damper then this opens up the choice of cartridges somewhat as the unwanted resonances that get into the arm can be picked up to a certain extent by the little fluid trough and paddle.
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Postby pivot » 08 Jun 2011 16:39

With the damper you may find playing with a Grado of interest. Grados like the damper - had a Blue on mine.

The higher complance Audio Technicas work nicely on this arm. I currently use the AT 440MLa. Does the AT 120e fall into your price range? You can upgrade the stylus later.
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Postby Chiltern » 08 Jun 2011 17:46

Hi, I use a Shure M97xE, with my Ariston RD110/SME series III.

It suits me fine, and my pocket. Looks good, sounds good (to me anyway).

You can source a new cartridge from the USA right now (Ebay) for around £50 carriage paid to the UK.

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Postby danpan » 08 Jun 2011 17:59

Thanks everybody - I settled for a Audio-Technica AT120E. I'll let you know how it sounds!!
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Postby smeg68 » 08 Jun 2011 19:04

alanomt wrote:You can source a new cartridge from the USA right now (Ebay) for around £50 carriage paid to the UK.


Amazon gives me "Shure M97xE High-Performance Magnetic Phono Cartridge cannot be shipped to the selected address. " when I try to buy one for delivery to the UK. Doh!
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Postby Eoin » 08 Jun 2011 22:17

You'll find that a very good choice. You've got an interesting choice of different stylii for that body if you want an easy upgrade later. However I think you'll be very happy indeed with the elliptical.
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Postby danpan » 09 Jun 2011 01:37

Eoin
Thank you in particular for your help and th offer of the loan of your cartridge.
Can I pick your brains some more?
My Rega RB300 arm has the original Linn K9 cartridge which seems to sound OK but rumour has it that it is not good.
Is it worth upgrading and to what.
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Postby Eoin » 09 Jun 2011 01:48

danpan wrote:Eoin
Thank you in particular for your help and th offer of the loan of your cartridge.
Can I pick your brains some more?
My Rega RB300 arm has the original Linn K9 cartridge which seems to sound OK but rumour has it that it is not good.
Is it worth upgrading and to what.
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Yes it is. Depends on your budget and whether you want moving magnet or coil.

It's based on an Audio Technica (it is an Audio Technica) but stylus replacements are not available (there is an AT stylus which sort of fits). The K9 has some value on eBay if you sold.

The RB300 can take a multitude of cartridges, your choice as I say depends on mostly your budget and roughly what sound you'd like.
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Postby Chiltern » 09 Jun 2011 02:12

smeg 68, try Ebay as suggested, have sent a PM with the item no.

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Postby kelvinMunson » 09 Jun 2011 13:58

On ebay there are several US dealers offering the M97xE for around £50 including shipping............... but what would import duty and VAT come to on top of that ?
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Postby Eoin » 09 Jun 2011 14:10

Well maybe 30% on top but some shippers have fixed handling fees which doesn't help small purchases.

Might be less if you are lucky.
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Postby danpan » 18 Jun 2011 11:31

Eoin

Said I'd let you know how it sounds - looks and sounds great.
Thanks again all for your help.

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Postby Eoin » 21 Jun 2011 19:54

Good, good.
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