Anyone Tried The Tizo Acrylic Platter On A Project

[TheAppleChap]

I was thinking of replacing the platter on my RPM 5 with the acrylic Pro-ject unit for another model but have been advised that it is too thin and you cannot get a working VTA.

Someone kindly pointed me to the Tizo site which produces custom acrylic platters and mats for the Pro-ject range.

They look fabulous but has anyone tried one and can comment about the sound?

I've tried quite a few mats and have settled on the Pro-ject Leather-it but the Tizo range allows you to go either acrylic platter with no mat or to buy a slightly thinner platter and add either a separate acrylic platter or another type of your choice.

If someone has tried these then please let us know as for less than €200 it could prove a very cost effective upgrade assuming an enhanced sound bringing the RMP5 up to the levels of the acrylic platter high end project models.

[noskipallwd]

Hello,
I know it's been awhile since you made this post but I just noticed it. I have a Acryteller plater on order for my RPM 1.3, it just got to the U.S. I expect it will be here in a few days, after I install it and do some listening I will post my impressions here. They do accent the looks of the Pro-ject tables quite a bit. I just hope it sounds as good as it looks.

Regards,
Shawn

[frenchmon]

Kindly take some pictures and post them and give us your thoughts on the sound. Thanks.

[rafaelhaque]

http://www.acrylteller.com/epages/es122 ... Categories

[frenchmon]

Why did you post the site...we know about the site. We want to see personal gear with one.

[noskipallwd]

Hello again,
Well the Tizo Acryl Platter for my RPM 1.3 arrived a couple of days after my last post. Sorry it took so long to reply but I work a 12 hour day, 7 day on shift in a hospital lab and have not had much time to listen. Here is a picture.
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Sorry about the quality, all I have is a cell phone. Well, I guess I should give some impressions. My first impression came after unboxing the platter, it is quite a bit more massive than the stock one. It is designed to be used without a mat so it is correspondingly thicker, and it has a cutout for the record label. Installation was easy, the tool to remove the stock bearing was included and took a couple of minutes. As far as set-up I made no changes the VTA was still spot-on and the TT was still level. Ok, how about the sound, well the first thing I noticed was the last bit of motor hum that I had not been able to get rid of was gone that was almost worth the price of admission alone. I assume that the small amount of hum that was still noticeable was either coming through the plinth into the platter or from the belt into the platter, either way it's gone. The second thing I noticed was the TT sounded completely different, so much so I had to switch platters back and forth to make sure I was not imagining it. I finally realized that it was the pace of the music that was different. So I strobed it to see if the motor was not able to spin the heavy platter as well as the stock. Mind you I liked the new sound much better! As it turns out the speed was slightly more accurate than before. I can only attribute this to the inertia of the more massive platter. It is a small difference but seem to make a large difference in playback I put on a couple of wonderful quality Harmonia Mundi Classical pressings I purchased in the 80's and it almost sounds like there is a different conductor compared with the stock platter. Other than the pace the most significant SQ difference was in the bass, it seems tighter and more prominent than before, much more pleasant. I have to say that I am very pleased so far! I have an Ortofon 2M Blue on order and should get it Saturday and am looking forward to the results of these tweaks combined.

Regards,

Shawn

[frenchmon]

Oh right! Thanks for the review. I had been wondering about those platters for a while. I have a Music Hall TT and wonder if one would work on it? How long did it take to get to the states? Dont forget to give is a review with the 2mBlue and give us more pictures please.

Thanks.

[robottaway]

woah! Just chiming in to say that is a slick looking setup!!!!

[TheAppleChap]

Hi Shawn,

Thanks for the excellent review. Your TT has the motor belt to the platter but my RPM5 goes to a sub platter so I wonder if the RPM gets the same benefits?

Would love to get rid of the small remaining motor hum that remains and get a little more base. Wonder if anyone has tried the one for the RPM5.

I have the OM2 Red so would love to hear your view on the upgrade to the Blue as the cartridge is compatible.

Thanks so much for the post. I think I'll make the purchase when I get some cash saved up. Will be a toss up between the platter and the Blue stylus!

Choices choices!

Alan

[frenchmon]

Hi AppleChap.

I've sent them a little note asking about a platter for my mm-f 7.1 which is the same as the PRO-JECT Xperience.

But your platter is listed on the site....ACRYLIC PLATTER for Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 and RPM 5 - RPM 4 milky-white 38mm
Product no.: 573840

http://www.acrylteller.com/epages/es122 ... /RPM__Line

So I think you will be fine. call them up and ask...

[noskipallwd]

Hello again,
Have the night off so I had time to check in. Alan, as I have not heard a 5.1 I can't speculate on the benefits of the acrylic platter for it. My feeling is the increased mass alone would be an improvement over the stock MDF. There is definetly less resonance, I got curious so I borrowed a friends mechanics stethoscope, (great for locating vibration and hum). The stock platter on my 1.3 with the motor on and no belt definitely has hum throughout, while I could not locate any in the acrylic! Well I installed the 2M Blue, and it's a fantastic cartridge, very quiet. My North American version of the RM 1.3 came equipped with the Sumiko Pearl, so I have not heard 2M Red. The blue is a huge improvement over the Pearl. I believe the only difference between the red and blue is the blue has a nude elliptical stylus. The bass on the Blue seems to be more accurate but a little thin, but I have been told this will improve throughout burn-in. I have to say that the new cartridge has improved the sound to a greater degree than the Acrylic platter, but I'm glad that I bought both. I'll post some pictures with the Blue installed soon. Right now I think I'l do some listening.

Regards,

Shawn

[frenchmon]

Dont forget to post pictures.

I have the Red and its a very nice cart. Once my new table arrives, even though it may have a cart, I am wanting to try the Black.

[wellman]

I have realy good experience with the Tizo acrylic platter 38 mm, for RPM 5. Because I bought my RPM 5 on the second hand market, It was still affordably to upgrade.

The Tizo gave higher resolution, better detail in bass and treble, more precise sound, more grip in bass, without more harshness. Lively and musicaly... more vinyl seduction.
I will never change back to the original one. The result is imediably and clear. I tried change back two times in the beginning, just for the experience.

It´s a great upgrade, because you can even get a better result when upgrading to a better cartridge. Now I use an Ortofon 2m Black with realy good result. Earlier I had a Grado Gold.

I also bought a 3 mm acrylic mat from Tizo. Sounds good (better than the original ones).

New inner cabeling with Clearaudio cables, was already done by the earlier owner. He told me that he and a friend of him had two identical RPM 5 side by side. One with original inner cables and the other with new cables. This was a great affordable upgrade. Maybe the cheapest upgrade of all.

[wellman]

Hello!
Here are one picture of the 38 mm Tiezo. It was wery difficult to upload pictures here, but here we go.
You can se why so thick platter is working, when you look at the bottom of it. The platter is devided in 3 sections, where the thinnest part is in the middle.

My next upgrade will may be be a natural stone platter under the RPM 5. A granite stone or some black stone.
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