Warped and Dangerous

by **Mitchell** » 13 Mar 2009 07:59

Timbo,

Here is a Youtube example of the process. I would not however recommend handling your records the way this guy does. :shock:

I would say to keep the record in between the sheets until cool, but what do I know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcLZRr4VDU[/url]

by **07bloomfieldb** » 13 Mar 2009 18:22

what of you don't have two pieces of glass?

by **Timbo101** » 13 Mar 2009 23:20

mmm, yea i think ill just leave it how it is. That Glass in the sun on a record looks like it does a number on flattening the grooves. But thanks for showing me the ropes

by **Willem1671** » 14 Mar 2009 17:09

I'll try this method next summer. But I strongly suggest not to handle the still warm record the way the guy in the film shows. Leave it between the plates and let it cool down. Besides, any other colour will take a lot longer to heat up, and I doubt if a white record will heat up at all. I'll have two 33cm pieces of toughned 8mm thick glass specially made for the purpose. But perhaps most important of all, make absolutely sure the records are sandwiched in a perfectly clean state. Any dust particle will be pressed in the softer vinyl when warmed up. I wonder if small (but often nasty) warps, the ones that cause the tone arm in combination with a high compliance cart to wobble, can be cured too.

I'll post on the subject next summer. Not enough heat by the sun where I live during other seasons.

by **blisteringbarnacles** » 18 Mar 2009 23:32

uk ebayers: suggest to avoid 'new and sealed' copies of john coltrane's 'Ballads'.

copy received today: badly warped with surface defects (aurally).

by **davestef** » 30 Mar 2009 07:11

ive bought three 7" singles that were warped but still very much playable, theyre barely warped, but still are not perfectly flat. those three are Modest mouse Float on, the white stripes blue orchid, and jimmy eat world Pain. theyre not perfect, but its not really a big deal.

by **Willem1671** » 30 Mar 2009 10:57

No record is perfectly flat. But the kind of warps can make a difference. If the warp is way below the tonearm/cartridge combination's resonance frequency, there won't be any problems, apparently as is the case with the singles you aquired. So, in general, a very high compliance cartridge mounted in a rather heavy tone arm, will lead to problems at certain, often very small and sometimes hardly visible warps. The gently up and down movement will, however, cause only minor problems, if any at all. So, in general, high compliance carts will need a light tone arm AND state of the art bearings with very low friction AND NO PLAY!! This is the very reason high compliant carts can be used (of course, within the tone arms specs!) in the Technics SL-1200 series. Its tone arm is not that light, but light enough to take a wide range of top class carts. All because the the total package is top quality.

Bye,

Willem.

by **nycbone** » 01 Apr 2009 00:54

Avoid sealed copies of:
Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane; Jazzland OJC-039 (J946)

I'm on my second copy from Acoustic Sounds.

Severe warping of both copies.

:cry:

by **07bloomfieldb** » 03 Apr 2009 20:18

nycbone wrote:Avoid sealed copies of:
Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane; Jazzland OJC-039 (J946)

I'm on my second copy from Acoustic Sounds.

Severe warping of both copies.

A lot of acoustic sound purchases seem to be warped. There is a thread on it.

by **Thorenasaurus** » 21 Apr 2009 04:28

The folks at hotstampers (dccblowout) claim that ALL mfsl copies of Aimee Mann's Bachelor#2 are warped< to the point that they sell them at a significant discount(sealed) with a no return policy, with the assumption that you know you are buying a warped record.(that will still play on a good setup)

by **Zer0beaT** » 21 Apr 2009 05:55

Miles Davis Bitches Brew 2LP just came out recently, the second LP on mine is warped pretty bad. My tonearm goes way up and then down every rotation but amazingly I can't detect any audible distortion or pitch fluctuation.

I've had pretty good luck with my LP's. But when I do have a problem, it always seems to the pricey major label releases (the Miles Davis $35 here)

Another LP I've bought recently that was bad was Neil Young at Massey Hall (major label, $30 2LP). The first LP had some strange noises in a few spots making it unlistenable, being an intimate acoustic recording, the strange noises stood out and could not be ignored. Thankfully the store I bought it at exchanged it for another copy despite their no return policy on vinyl and the second one was pristine.

I guess I shouldn't be bothered by the warped Bitches Brew since it plays fine, but I hate looking at it playing and going up and down so much every rotation.

I'm thinking I should find a store with a better return policy for my pricier vinyl purchases, even if they have a higher markup.

by **Axlinscotland** » 30 Apr 2009 01:14

07bloomfieldb wrote:what of you don't have two pieces of glass?

ahahahaha I don't have sun here!!!! or at least it doesn't heat enough I think, what would be a reccomended temperature for the oven.

Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dreams by Virgin and Caroline Both vinyls warped.

Cheers

by **Old Rusty** » 30 Apr 2009 04:29

I went through 4 different copies of 'War' by U2, on heavyweight vinyl, remastered, blah, blah, blah. They were all warped beyond playability in the exact same manner.

Returned them all & got a refund. Bought an old copy from 1983 for $1. Looks like it was only played once & it sounds great.

by **blisteringbarnacles** » 22 May 2009 15:23

boz scaggs - speak low.

new, sealed record. Worst warp and 'scuffing' marks I think I've ever seen on any record.

Warped and Dangerous

hmm

Bachelor #2