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Dumb question on GL75 arm

Postby keithclarke » 18 Jul 2004 22:30

How wonderful to find some Goldring Lenco experts. Please help a newbie. I have just bought a GL75, which has arrived with the tone arm disassembled, and I can't for the life of me see what is supposed to fix the back of the tone arm to the main part. Could someone put me out of my misery?

I had a GL69 many years ago, which had a different design. The 75 has stumped me.

Thanks,

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Re: Dumb question on GL75 arm

Postby Gatto Murr » 19 Jul 2004 07:43

keithclarke wrote:... I have just bought a GL75, which has arrived with the tone arm disassembled, and I can't for the life of me see what is supposed to fix the back of the tone arm to the main part....


Not sure I understood...

The Lenco arm is a two-pieces item, a longer rod which goes from the headshell connector to the knife bearings (and a little more), a shorter one which holds the counterweight. The two rods are connected together by means of a flexible segment, for decoupling purposes.
But this is done at the factory...
Is this segment broken? If so, you're into troubles.

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Flexible segmant

Postby keithclarke » 19 Jul 2004 08:02

Thanks, Piero. What does the segment look like? I can't see anything that looks like it might hold the two rods together. Maybe I have bought a pup.
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Re: Flexible segmant

Postby Gatto Murr » 19 Jul 2004 10:49

keithclarke wrote:... What does the segment look like? ..

If you've got a broken arm rod, I have one sleeping in the bookshelf. Just your address is needed.

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Broken arm?

Postby keithclarke » 19 Jul 2004 11:38

Piero, this is so helpful of you. I don't know whether I have a broken arm or not. I have the main rod, which ends in a brass screw, and I have the short one with the big weight. But I can't see anything that looks like this flexible segment to hold them together. Can I get hold of one of these segments anywhere?

I have contacted the seller but so far no response.

Thanks for your detailed help. It is much appreciated.

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Re: Broken arm?

Postby Gatto Murr » 19 Jul 2004 12:32

keithclarke wrote:... I don't know whether I have a broken arm or not. I have the main rod, which ends in a brass screw, and I have the short one with the big weight. But I can't see anything that looks like this flexible segment to hold them together. Can I get hold of one of these segments anywhere?


If you could take a picture of your arm rod, that would help to understand if it's broken or not....

By the way, I'm afraid it's impossible to repair a broken arm at home. You'd need special tools, I suppose.

a source of replacement parts for Lenco turntable could be:

Technical and General, PO Box 53, Crowborough, Sussex TN 6 2BY, UK
Tel. +44 (0) 1892 654534
technical-and-general@fsmail.net

but no arm rod in their list (you could ask, however..).

Well, if you can take a picture, please send it to scumina@tin.it (that's me).
I'm quite curious...


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try this

Postby colclarke » 19 Jul 2004 16:21

Hi

It sounds like the arm may be broken. You should not be depressed tho' cos, if busted it just means fitting a better arm sooner rather than later. Depends on how much work you want to do or maybe how much to spend.

You could either buy a Linn arm - any one fits easy, or search the local car boots for a suitable plastic 80's deck to get a donor arm.

Take your tape measure 'cos you are looking for a spindle to pivot dimension of 210mm. Then the fun starts making it fit!

The deck is worth a good arm btw.

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Postby Gatto Murr » 19 Jul 2004 18:57

Hi Keith, Hi Colin...

another arm could be a Project... not sure of the VTA range, however, and not exactly on the cheapest side.

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Broken arm

Postby keithclarke » 20 Jul 2004 11:00

It seems the arm is indeed broken, since there is no sign of this magic flexible segment to hold it together. I took some pics, but don't have a website so cannot display them here. Thanks for all your help. I'll just have to try and get some response from the buyer, who seems to have gone mysteriously quiet.
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stop press!

Postby colclarke » 20 Jul 2004 13:55

Hi Keith

I realise you have to follow up with the seller if poss, but if you keep the deck I've just had a crazy idea. Fwiw.

The flexible link that is broken on your arm is the cause of some soul searching for Lenco-philes, a sort of love hate thing. Some folks even think the arm would be better without it, but how to do it. well first you've got to snap it off! Ouch!! Yours is already.

Now how about a splint? There is room to use something like a cable tie either side to fix a splint of rod across the join. I am going to check this out this evening just to satisfy my own curiosity, I think it could work.

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Re: stop press!

Postby Gatto Murr » 20 Jul 2004 22:32

colclarke wrote:......I've just had a crazy idea.


Another one... i was looking at the broken rod in the Blueintheface site..

What about threading the two inserts and join together the two sections of the arm rod by means of a headless screw?

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Re: stop press!

Postby blueintheface » 20 Jul 2004 22:48

Gatto Murr wrote:
colclarke wrote:......I've just had a crazy idea.


Another one... i was looking at the broken rod in the Blueintheface site..

What about threading the two inserts and join together the two sections of the arm rod by means of a headless screw?

regards, Piero




This would be the thing to do ;-)

I had hoped to do precisely this if it had been possible to remove

a) the 'wire' in the rear part of the arm, and
b) the brass insert in the main part of the arm.

Unfortunately, almost everything to do with dissembling the arm is seriously difficult - I'd considered welding the two parts together (!) but couldn't find a way to remove the wiring . . . and a blow torch in that general vicinity would surely melt the wiring - so if anyone wants my two 'disconnected' parts to experiment with, just email me your postal address . . .

PS I don't think there's enough room round the bearing housing to splint the two sections together either - the join is too near the knives . . .

PPS - i can almost hear Jas heart sink when 'Lenco' ends up at the top of the board . . . again ;-)
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Postby JaS » 21 Jul 2004 06:25

PPS - i can almost hear Jas heart sink when 'Lenco' ends up at the top of the board . . . again

Keep it up and you'll get your own section :lol:

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Postby blueintheface » 21 Jul 2004 11:49

JaS wrote:
PPS - i can almost hear Jas heart sink when 'Lenco' ends up at the top of the board . . . again

Keep it up and you'll get your own section :lol:

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i had a suspicion you wanted me sectioned . . . :shock:
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