john guest wrote:I am a firm believer that Grado have down graded the cartridges which gave them a good name and a price which at one time was acceptable and well applauded. I have a 30 odd year old F-1+ with original stylus , it kicks into touch, what is supposed to be the equivalent , the gold stylus.In fact the F-1+ is supposed to be equivalent to the silver ?. Put a Gold stylus against the F-1+ and hear the difference, No comparison. I love the Grado sound, you either love it or hate it, pick the side of the fence your on , as there are more for than against, shame about the downgrading and the high cost.
banerjba wrote: I understand that the tip might not be that fancy but even the Black is capable of exceptional detail compared with virtually any other budget cartridge.
banerjba wrote:One thing I noticed is that a high quality interconnect from phone pre to line stage makes a huge difference. That bloom in the Silver dissappears and you get much flatter response. I use a Nordost Purple Flare.
banerjba wrote:There is a lot of hate on this site for Grado. You dont like them I get that
ld wrote:banerjba wrote:There is a lot of hate on this site for Grado. You dont like them I get that
Personally, I don't think it's like that. It's more like that 'posts which might point out downsides in Grado carts can be perceived as an affront by those who might post partisan advocacy of Grado products'. So the posts appear polarised, but if taken together seem to form a reasonable view. I think it's an artifact of the sort of 'cult' that seems to surround Grado products, where no dissent or challenge seems too welcome.
Grado carts are simply another thread in the tapestry of vinyl replay, IMO. Pretty obviously they can't be that far from par to have stood the test of time. They are what they are, and have strengths and weaknesses like all carts. But pointing out potential pitfalls and downsides isn't really 'hate', it restores the balance from 'love' post ommissions. It would surely be misleading to read the OP in isolation, for example.