Yet another 95B auto oddity

[eddie edirol]

Ok fellas, I made videos of how you can look to see what part works the spindles. You can see whats going on under your deck 95B. let me know if this helps. One video is with one record on the stacker, and the other is with 4. Hopefully you can see where it goes wrong with yours. It might be able to tell you why the 45's arent dropping. If the LP's continue to drop and the 45's dont, I have to assume somethi8ng is wrong with the 45 stacker itself.

[Zaimejs]

Wow... thank you. It is good to see this working. I'm going to get under mine and video the same area to see what mine is or is not doing. I think the spindle hits that springy black thing. Then the weight of the record pushes on the spring so that it can't "go all the way" over. When there are no more records, then it doesn't have any resistance, so it can slide over.

So mine must either be faulty black spring or something. There isn't that communication between the spindle and the auto dropper that it's on the last record. Video to follow! This is fun. I'm so glad someone took the time to do this!

[Zaimejs]

Okay, so here are links to my videos.

This is one with the auto spindle and a record drop. You'll see that it isn't stopping like it should. What is different in this video from the working one posted here?

This is a video with the regular spindle to see if you can see a difference. The machine stops when the standard spindle is in, but not the auto drop.

??? Thanks for looking. ???

[eddie edirol]

Ok Z. I think I see your problem. It looks like a calibration issue with the slider. I'm just guessing based on the videos, I still have to look at mine again to trace the slider back to what it triggers to stop the turntable. There should be a link on the slider to the stop button. I can see that the slider is going where it should with the changer spindle, and the single spindle, so that must mean the problem is at the other end of the slider. I think it isnt going quite far enough with the empty changer spindle to trigger the stop mechanism, so its just about finding that trigger stop. I will look for this on mine.

Have you re-greased all the parts to this turntable?

[Zaimejs]

Yes, I disassembled it when I first got it and ungreased and regreased everything. It is all moving pretty smoothly. I will look at the other end to see what it's not doing.

However, if it works when the not-auto spindle is in there, doesn't that mean something? I mean... the auto stop feature does work... it only does not work when I am in auto play mode.

Thanks so much for checking on this.

[eddie edirol]

However, if it works when the not-auto spindle is in there, doesn't that mean something?

Yep, II see I was a lil vague in last reply. Put it this way - from what I saw, the slider moves into three positions during the cycle:

(L)Single Spindle<---(M)Unloaded spindle<---(R)Loaded spindle.

I think the precise position of the "unloaded spindle" is where the problem is. Like something isnt lined up right in that particular spot, something on the other side of the slider connected to the trigger. Thats why it stops with the single spindle. I have to take a look at that on mine. See if I can get a precise measurement of what the trigger is. This is fun!

[Zaimejs]

I wish I could play it upside down so I could see exactly what is going on when I'm working on it. I took some more diagnostic video today.

What makes the slider "know" what is on the spindle? That's what I don't get. It has to be that black spring... the way it "feels" the tip of the spindle... and this precise pressure on it is what tells it to drop records or not.

I was just playing with the screw on the spring. When I loosened it completely, the records would not auto drop. I tightened it up a bit, and they dropped again.

A red herring? Or another clue?

[Zaimejs]

Here is one more video where you can easily see most of the bottom mechanism of the garrard. I think that the problem might be on the upper right where there is this lever that seems to want to get nudged by the slider, but it doesn't push it far enough to stop the record.

Can you see if the positions of my parts are the same? There I replaced the spring on the part I'm talking about, so you can see an extra spring dangling there to help you find the part of the mechanism that I'm talking about.

LINK: Some more dropping videos.

Enjoy looking. I need to stop and watching slow motion because there are so many moving parts. If I had a working model to compare this too, then I could see what is different.

[eddie edirol]

Ok I know what the problem is. Were back to this part:



Heres the video to show you. This time we can verify if yours works the same as mine. Im currently uploading, hopefully by the time you check this it will be live.

http://youtu.be/ATRlAXbUiOU

[Zaimejs]

Says video is private. This part... the stopping part? I think it works because the auto stop single play works, but I'll take a look.

[eddie edirol]

Ok try this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATRlAXbUiOU

I linked to your youtube account so you can see it.
I also sent a message to your youtube account with the link in it.

I tried to upload it to photobucket, and they refused to upload it.

[Zaimejs]

It is still set to private...

[eddie edirol]

OK I see where I messed up, I was supposed to set it as unlisted instead of private. So now the link should work.

[Zaimejs]

Okay, I watched it. I checked my player and that part moves very well. I have to get back under it to see where it triggers the auto off lever when it slides. This could be the issue. I still think it has something to do with the spindle and the black spring though... not registering that there are no more records to drop.