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Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby status66uk » 26 May 2012 21:59

just reading about these online, price is about $8000 or something, Was wondering if anyone had one on here?

Im still not achieving the kind of reproduction i like from my technics sl dl 1 so im looking around for improvements to make to it or god forbid try to save up for the laser thing!

any thoughts, opinions or experiences with the laser player appreciated
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby macshifi » 26 May 2012 22:53

One thing I remember reading about laser record players is they will not read a translucent or clear record correctly. Even if I had enough money to buy one, which I don't, I don't think I would buy one.

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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby Dismord » 27 May 2012 01:32

When the first examples of the Filial laser turntable arrived in Oz I borrowed one for a weekend.
Horrifying experience. It emphasised surface noise like nothing I've heard before or since and the track location software was so unpredictable it was useless. The sound though offered promise although nowhere near as good as any cartridge, MM or MC, above $1000. So, unless there have been significant breakthroughs in this technology I haven't heard about I'll stay well clear of the things.
Nice idea though from the perspective of preserving precious irreplaceable vinyl.
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby JoeE SP9 » 27 May 2012 02:58

Check out the website for Laser TT's.

http://www.elpj.com/index.php
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby Fishtails » 27 May 2012 11:44

No way would imgo for the lazer thing.

Best to try another turntable and a nice cartridge.

I also use a graphic equalizer with my turntable so i have more control over different pressings.
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby JoeE SP9 » 27 May 2012 23:08

status66uk wrote:just reading about these online, price is about $8000 or something, Was wondering if anyone had one on here?

Im still not achieving the kind of reproduction i like from my technics sl dl 1 so im looking around for improvements to make to it or god forbid try to save up for the laser thing!

any thoughts, opinions or experiences with the laser player appreciated


There are plenty of TT's better than your Technics. Perhaps one of them would suffice. There are many enthusiasts who have much more than $8,000 invested in their TT's. Most of them do not have laser TT's. That should tell you something.
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby 13oots2 » 27 May 2012 23:09

$700 for an optional remote, doesn't make me think that the whole unit is totally overpriced... not!
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby Zebbo » 29 May 2012 07:51

Dismord wrote:When the first examples of the Filial laser turntable arrived in Oz I borrowed one for a weekend.
Horrifying experience. It emphasised surface noise like nothing I've heard before or since and the track location software was so unpredictable it was useless. The sound though offered promise although nowhere near as good as any cartridge, MM or MC, above $1000. So, unless there have been significant breakthroughs in this technology I haven't heard about I'll stay well clear of the things.
Nice idea though from the perspective of preserving precious irreplaceable vinyl.


Exactly my experience when I listened to one. The surface noise especially was horrendous!
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby flavio81 » 29 May 2012 16:35

status66uk wrote:Im still not achieving the kind of reproduction i like from my technics sl dl 1 so im looking around for improvements


You are using a so-so turntable and your planned next step is a $8000 overhyped turntable? Not a good idea.

First try to look for a better, reasonably priced, conventional turntable.

As for the laser turntable, IMO it's a complex solution to a problem that has already been overcome 40+ years ago: Record wear.
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby charlieblue » 30 May 2012 20:11

Dismord wrote:When the first examples of the Filial laser turntable arrived in Oz I borrowed one for a weekend.

Would that be "Finial"? How long ago was that?

Dismord wrote:the track location software was so unpredictable it was useless.

Can't tell about the Finial models, never heard one. There have been a few times where I had some trouble with tracking, but this was allways with the machine cold. Any tracking problems disapear after a few minutes of warmup, which is also suggested in the user manual.

Dismord wrote:Nice idea though from the perspective of preserving precious irreplaceable vinyl.

Yes, eliminating any danger of record wear would be a reason to use one

Zebbo wrote:Exactly my experience when I listened to one. The surface noise especially was horrendous!

Clean your records well, mate, then you won't have any problems with noise whatsoever :) All lps I use on it get the looooong cleaning treatment. Still, I have lps that sound realy noisy on it, while others are dead quiet. And by that, I mean CD quiet, not a pop anywhere (... seems like I have been pampered by the digital devil for too long :lol: ) My quess is, the noisy ones have been mistreated by previous owners, so there is litle hope for a resurection. I have damaged lps myself back in my teen years, playing them on a Hitachi table which had no adjustments at all :oops: ...

13oots2 wrote:$700 for an optional remote, doesn't make me think that the whole unit is totally overpriced... not!

Right there, that's the main problem with the LT, IMHO. The litle raskal works, but it still costs a fortune. Yet, the pricing policy has very much improved: I paid a @#$%load of money back in '07 when I got my first model :cry: #-o

Well, I got the LT with the remote, then almost never needed it: I keep both the LT (and the CDp) next to the listening seat, whithin arms reach, because I dont like getting up while going through LPs, a lazy b@#$@$ I am allright :wink: !

Guys, I've been through 3 models of the LT, except for the latest one. As expected, every upgrade shows improvements, and every upgrade is costly. But the experience has me hooked. And, since it trumped the Linn, I showed the latter one the door :twisted: .

macshifi wrote:One thing I remember reading about laser record players is they will not read a translucent or clear record correctly.


I had to give up my "printed" Ride the Lightning lp, and only use the black version. Last mistake I made was when I bought a double Cocteaw Twins lp, where the second record was colored. Now I always check for the lps I buy, so as not to get any color vinyl or ones that have any images on them. Not a major problem for me though, I have very few colored lps overall.

My main complaint now with the LT is that I don't have enough time to listen to it. And I do spent a lot of time scrubing, instead of listening. On the up side, once cleaned, I naver had to clean a record twice. And the moto is right on the spot : no contact, no wear !

Hope I've helped a bit,

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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby Zebbo » 30 May 2012 21:38

Blimey you're the only person I've ever heard of who actually OWNS one of these! Best be careful or your govt will be coming round to your place for a loan... :lol:
Incidently, the noisy record wasn't mine, mine are always kept spotless as I can't abide noise.
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby Shadowman82 » 30 May 2012 21:50

I never heard one of those but I'd reckon that for that kind of money you could get a set up that sounds much better than any Laser TT .
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby magnetmaz » 30 May 2012 22:18

I remember drooling over these a decade ago.... But, isnt a purely analog signal path one of the primary reason for vinyl preference? The lack of digitization and DACs? It is for me.
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Re: Anybody here got a laser record player?

Postby charlieblue » 31 May 2012 14:42

Zebbo wrote:Blimey you're the only person I've ever heard of who actually OWNS one of these! Best be careful or your govt will be coming round to your place for a loan... :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
The taxcolectors are out, whips at hand, and our a@#%$ are bare :lol:

Zebbo wrote:Incidently, the noisy record wasn't mine, mine are always kept spotless as I can't abide noise.

Cool! Thats the way to go, for any vinyl lover 8) !

magnetmaz wrote:I remember drooling over these a decade ago.... But, isnt a purely analog signal path one of the primary reason for vinyl preference? The lack of digitization and DACs? It is for me.

magnet, the company swears that the signal is kept analogue all the way. I'm not a technical person, so I couldnt tell, even when I opened it up and was staring at the circuit boards... :)
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