Another Dual 1209 Noob Needs Repair Advice

[nd23rin]

Hey All

Like many, I picked up a used 1209 for $10 yesterday, and after lurking through some of the posts on lubrication, etc in preparation...I finally opened it up last night to asses the damage.

When I got it it was not working however I could hear the motor and feel it heating a little so I knew it was getting power. I could see that the idler wheel was jut not contacting the platter. The speed switch assembly was VERY gunked up with grease, so I just quickly gave it a cleaning by scraping some of the gunk out. I can now get the idler wheel to touch by manually moving the switch assembly and therefore get the platter spinning. This brings me to my main problem.

1. The start stop switch seems to just move freely back and forth but it doesn't cause much to happen underneath. I can see that the switch movement is turning the gold piece underneath but it's almost like is not catching onto anything. So when you move the switch it just feels like its stripped or something.
Can the actual switch knobs be removed? I don't see any indication on the best way in the service manual.

2. Second, the tone arm lift isn't doing anything, just swinging around. I looked at the service manual But I'm having a hard time discerning from that angle how the crescent shaped piece attached to the bottom of the lift underneath is supposed to be somehow connected to the arm, or just supposed to somehow move it.

3. Overall, I can manually start the platter by reaching underneath and lightly moving the arm connected to the start switch. The arm raises, moves, drops for about 3 seconds, then raises up again and moves towards the rest. It does this almost in a loop constantly.


Any help would be appreciated.

[gg383]

Lots of times the on-off and speed switches are all gunked up as well as the motor, sounds like you have to crack the motor open and clean out the old crud and re-oil it. Mark it so the 2 halves go back the same way they were. If you cue up the tonearm and move it manually to the record and drop it onto the record it may work better than using the switch, quick fix until you get the switch back in order. When you have a chance spend an evening going thru posts that pertain to your model or problems and you may find a lot of your answers. I don't have a 1209 so this is the best advice I can give you, lots of different models out there and I think there's only a few experts on even most of them. Glenn.

[nd23rin]

OK, so happy to report that I seem to have fixed mosty of the mechanical issues described above. Now if only I could get sound to come out when I hook the TT up!

Like I said, I am not getting any sound when hooked up and I think I may have traced the problem to the two wires coming from the tonearm down through to the area where the RCA cables connect. These wires seem to have two leads each and for each wire, only one lead looks to be soldered to anything. The wires are SO tiny that it is hard to tell from the service manual if they are supposed to be all hooked up.

If so, what is the best way to skin some of the insulation off in order to expose enough wire to reconnect it. They look so delicate!

Thanks

[Alec124c41]

Use magnification.

Cheers,
Alec