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Postby analogous » 13 Feb 2010 11:55

JoeE SP9 wrote:When is any magazine supposed to be a savior of any piece of gear just because someone is fond of it? If there were any publications protesting the loss of specific lathes I would have supposed it would be those publications that deal with "pro" gear and recording/mastering tools.


The point is the exact opposite. It is not what a magazine is supposed to do, but what it chooses to do.

That Stereophile does not give a damn about history, recording and vinyl authoring equipment is not an excuse. Nor does it have a responsible to do those things.

Stereophile may not care if there's no Neumann lathe left on the planet. I would insist that they should. But that is also irrelevant. And I'm not trying to make Stereophile care.

I cannot imagine a worse magazine than Stereophile. It is written by narcissistic sycophants for narcissistic sycophants.

JoeE SP9 wrote:Stereophile is aimed at people who listen to music not those who make it.

I put no words in anyone's mouth. I merely questioned berating a publication for not following someones specific list of favorite gear.

Stereophile is not the same magazine it was when JGH started it. Neither is this hobby or anything else.


I know what Stereophile is. No, it has not changed one bit in 50 years. It always was indifferent to anything but its narrow interests.

I know what Stereophile is. I accept that. I just don't like it. And Stereophile hurts us all. It is the enemy.
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Postby starterwiz » 13 Feb 2010 21:53

This Stereophile crap has messed up another thread.

IT'S OFF TOPIC.


True That!

Best value has to be the 2p nails from the Home Depot nail dept.
I got a stick with a nail in it one Christmas as a kid, and I've never been the same since. That and my dunce cap as an amplifier...
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby tigiblet344 » 27 Apr 2012 16:21

Just want to put my oar in here, for value, style, total engineering brilliance, and one that sounds totally superb. Michell GYRO se.
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby Richard_P » 28 Apr 2012 20:44

I can agree with that. Michell Gyro SE with an SME arm.
An Orbe is better sounding, but the Gyro looks better.
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby loki65 » 29 Apr 2012 01:59

Is it the best ever built, i don't know. I've not auditioned that many.
But My TT once analog, sme M2, ortofon cadenza black with a rega ios phono.
Sounds fantastic.


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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby steve195527 » 29 Apr 2012 19:12

best turntable in what way?from a pure engineering point of view,meaning tolerances/finish etc or from a sound point of view:-the two don't always go together,thing is though to give an educated opinion a person would have had to have used/examined/listened to all turntables pertaining to be the best,and I doubt anyone has:-thread should be renamed"favourite turntable"!
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby Dr Pan K » 29 Apr 2012 20:19

as the micro and emt have been allready mentioned in this thread i must add one more name, that is in the olympus of turntable designers and manufacturers, though not so well known or published outside japan

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takeshi teragaki has produced some of the finest equipment ever, its a pity u wont be seeing him around in stereophile or axpona
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby Boukman » 30 Apr 2012 22:28

I have had a few... Pro-ject, Technics SL1210, Sony TTS4000, Thorens TD160 etc. I now have a technics SP10, two Garrard 401's, a Garrard 301, a Lenco L70 and and a Lenco 88. For me, the most beautiful is the Garrard 301, the technically most refined and robust the Technics SP10. But my all time favourite is the Garrard 401. Bullet proof, with great drive and bass. The Lenco's are cute as well. Idler drive really is special
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Postby Dismord » 01 May 2012 00:06

aardvarkash10 wrote:this one

But it's not big enough ! Look at the front wheels!
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Postby Dismord » 01 May 2012 00:16

Of the high end ( read obscenely expensive) turntables I've listened to I'd rank them thus:-
1:Continuum 'Coliburn'
2: Rockport 'Sirius'
3: Walker "Black Diamond'
Sadly no's 1 & 3 are styled like a 1950's Pontiac but I guess I could just manage to put up with the hideous arm on the Continuum if I painted all the chrome on the TT black.
In general though, turntables that cost an arm and a leg are invariably styled to scream "Look at how much money I've spent on this" I'm constantly amazed at how much bling can be thrown as the simple idea of rotating an LP at 33.1/3 RPM..
Ranking TT's by sonics though is full of traps. To be sure of any subjective judgement you'd have to hear each TT with the same cartridge, phono-preamp etc in the same room to be sure of what you're hearing.
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby Larry I » 01 May 2012 02:23

The best that I've heard is the Audio Note TT-3, which I happened to hear this past Saturday. Until I heard that table, I did not think that any particular table was dramatically better than another. The sound is extremely propulsive without being rough sounding or strident. The sound was extremely full bodied, warm and rich without sounding sluggish and murky--all other tables I've heard trade off warmth and richness against clarity/speed/dynamics. The table had a Helius arm and an Audio Note Io cartridge. I've heard that cartridge before, but never sounding THAT good.

I have an opportunity to purchase the table, but, it is extremely impractical in some respects. It has three motors that are driven from three separate power supplies. Each power supply is the size of a decent monobloc amplifier, and each draws 800 watts. The table itself is not much bigger than my Basis Debut IV table, but, I have no room for the power supply and I have no idea how anyone powers up three 800 watt power supplies unless one uses more than one 20 amp cicuit.
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Re: The BEST turntable ever built

Postby satanfriendly » 01 May 2012 07:04

The best that I've heard is the Audio Note TT-3


If I'm correct the AN TT-3 started life as the Voyd Reference until they took over the brand. Should be on everyone's dream list
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Re: Re:

Postby Smoke Screen » 01 May 2012 07:23

Dismord wrote:In general though, turntables that cost an arm and a leg are invariably styled to scream "Look at how much money I've spent on this" I'm constantly amazed at how much bling can be thrown as the simple idea of rotating an LP at 33.1/3 RPM..
Ranking TT's by sonics though is full of traps. To be sure of any subjective judgement you'd have to hear each TT with the same cartridge, phono-preamp etc in the same room to be sure of what you're hearing.


Yeah,my thoughts exactly. And you have to hear them in blind-test,cause everbody knows how deceiving looks can be.
Personaly i never had interest in state-of-the-art or high end turntables cause
they offer to less bang for the buck. Its nice to see and and hear them on a
show in combination with a monster setup but thats it for me. Im a music lover
not a technic fetishist. And money spent rather went into "software" than "hard-
ware".
On the other hand i like some decks of the late seventies/early eighties very
much. Made for a still competitiv market they are often found in the upper middle
class. Like for example SL-1600MK2,DP-60L,PS-X65,CS721,TD-320,HT-500/II,YP-D71
T-65,KD-850,PL-600,DQ-43. Just to name a few. To be honest one of those with a perfect fitting cart is way good enough for me. :D
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