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Postby tigiblet344 » 11 Oct 2011 21:59

does anyone know where i can get a stylus for this cart please. i would rather have an original stereohedron a decent line contact type after market will do.
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby dlaloum » 12 Oct 2011 15:23

tigiblet344 wrote:does anyone know where i can get a stylus for this cart please. i would rather have an original stereohedron a decent line contact type after market will do.

Try http://pickupnaald.nl/

But it won't be cheap!!! (you have been warned....)

The LPGear Shibata stylus is a well regarded alternative.... (much much much cheaper)
http://www.lpgear.com/product/PICSD3000.html
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby steve195527 » 12 Oct 2011 20:24

I found some for sale on a USA retailers site,but they were too expensive for me to buy one:-ones who had any left seemed to think they could charge "what they felt like",going to see if expert stylus company can fit one of their latest fancy styli to my assembly
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby dlaloum » 14 Oct 2011 06:46

One thing to keep in mind,

Pickering had a proprietary cantilever treatment and design... the cantilevers were apparently using some sort of anodising treatment on the inside of the tube.... which was patented - in addition to the shape of the needle (stereohedron)

But I would be VERY interested in hearing what Expert (or other tippers) can do for these....

The D7500S cantilever, has a resonance at 19kHz, which is pretty good.... higher is better.. I don't know whether a third party cantilever could lift the resonance F up higher (which would be an improvement!) - or whether it would lower it...

Bye for now

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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby tigiblet344 » 11 Dec 2011 15:58

im sending ti expert stylus they can put a paratrace on it for 85 ukpounds, this is way cheaper than a nos d7500s when and if they appear, and cheaper than the jico one. this route preserves the cantilever, and puts what the very nice man at expert says is a better designed stylus tip shape than the 30 + year old stereohedron.
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby dlaloum » 11 Dec 2011 23:39

Good choice!!
The cantilever on these is excellent and quite unique.... let us know how it sounds when you get it back...
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby tigiblet344 » 17 Mar 2012 22:09

oh bother mr expert reports my pickering is not too well the rubbers inside it are worn so its to the great cartridge bin in the sky for that one then, i think its time to leave the NOS or second hand route alone and by new. both the newbies i have are fine, all the NOS / secondhand stuff i get seems to have something wrong with it. DOH!!!

does anyone make a low output Moving iron or moving mag cart anymore the only two i know of were the pickering xlz or the stanton 981. the benefit is ultra low impedance something like 3 ohms in the xlz this means you get the flatter warmer mm sound but without the mind bending impedance matching issues. and a realy mc like clarity, that was my impression from the xlz i had years ago.
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby dlaloum » 18 Mar 2012 08:35

Nope none other that I know of which are truly low output like the stanton/pickering models.

The Grado's are low inductance (50mH), some of the classic AT's (AT22/23/24/25)are around 80mH as were the great Technics MM's (EPC100)...
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby steve195527 » 18 Mar 2012 14:53

I'm a bit surprised that Expert cannot replace the suspension rubber if its US:-they can on MC carts
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby tigiblet344 » 19 Mar 2012 15:44

its a sealed body they cant get into it :(
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby Doug G. » 20 Mar 2012 00:10

I would certainly question the expertise of those "experts" if not out-and-out accuse them of attempted fraud because the entirety of the suspension in that cartridge is in the stylus assembly and there is absolutely no reason they would have to ever get into the body except to repair electrical connections.

The suspension is replaced anytime the stylus is.

EDIT: Hehe, oops forget what I said if you guys are talking about retipping but the sealed body thing still doesn't make sense.

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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby steve195527 » 20 Mar 2012 18:42

Doug G. wrote:I would certainly question the expertise of those "experts" if not out-and-out accuse them of attempted fraud because the entirety of the suspension in that cartridge is in the stylus assembly and there is absolutely no reason they would have to ever get into the body except to repair electrical connections.

The suspension is replaced anytime the stylus is.

EDIT: Hehe, oops forget what I said if you guys are talking about retipping but the sealed body thing still doesn't make sense.

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Don't question the expertise of those guys:-they are the best in the business,that includes soundsmith etc:-they provide the tips and sapphire cantilevers etc to the other re-tipping companies but withhold their best product for their sole use,its possibly a misinterpretation of Wyndhams explanation of what a sealed body is:-maybe the tube the cantilever suspension is in:-may be implying that trying to remove/replace suspension would cause irrecoverable damage to the assembly:-unlike a lot of companies Expert will not just take your money and do a botched job,they would rather refuse the work
Before making such accusations you may have been wise to look up their history:-they are the company decca turned to to figure a way of bonding the diamond tip in the london cartridge and they were the company Shure turned to to try and keep production of the v15xmr going when working with beryllium was outlawed in Japan,but it was already against UK law to work with it:-Shure had the styluses for that model made there,not in the US or Mexico,they were just assembled there
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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby Doug G. » 21 Mar 2012 16:32

Did you read my edit? I did say forget what I said blah, blah, blah.

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Re: pickering xlz 7500s

Postby chirimagua » 26 Feb 2013 17:07

Townshend Elite C747 is a low output MM cartridge - a bit late but if you are still interested!!
Re Expert Stylus - per a conversation I had in January 2013 they no longer do rebuilds, no coils, no supension. Apparently its down to the difference in sound some people claimed occurred in their treasured cartridges after the work was carried out.I have a Logbellex MC on which the suspension has gone, apart from that its perfect!! After a very friendly discussion they will take a look in case my diagnosis is too critical but they do not hold out much hope. I think there might be a curiosity issue as he had not heard of Logbellex - neither had I until I bought it from "that" site. PS there is a 6 month queue for "treatment" so they must be doing something right - or at least the demand for their services indicates they are.
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