Shure SC35C... Highly recommended

[Ldg]

I think 0.75 to 1.5 g with spherical stylus (r = .6) and compliance of 18-20 cu (at 10 Hz) is ridiculous, IMO (just marketing). 0,75 gr ! You truly believe it ?

Well, compliance at 10Hz could be higher still than that, based on VTF range. Obviously, this is very different from the original. But no reason to doubt Jico's spec. It's a very different arm matching proposition too. So, surprising as a replacement, i think.

[dlaloum]

Not so surprising perhaps, if as I suspect, the SC35C is a V15Vx in drag!

[Doubleplay]

Inspired by this thread i just ordered a M70BX at Williamthakker, which should be a hifi version of the old M-35 series. A good ol` Shure, made in USA.

[audiopile]

Just got a pretty useful accessory from Needle Doctor - the Shure RPP635 labeled as the M35 series hardware. Frankly - i ordered this because i have managed to acquire a number of SME bayonet headshells that lacked cart wires.Kits actually pretty useful : brush for cleaning stylus , couple of lengths of bolts , several washers ,small phillips screw driver for the bolts ,3.3 gram plate/weight.four appropriately coloured headshell wires, and most importantly a stylus guard that fits the standard SC-35C stylus , the JICO SAS and the M70BX. Downsides - well - the plate and the bolts are not non-magnetic -so probably not the best for use with MC carts.

[Doubleplay]

I wonder if the SC35C generator would sound better, since it has a lower induction than the M70BX http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/public/ ... ges_ug.pdf

[audiopile]

I think you're right about the generators certainly being different and although it looks like a JICO SAS for the SC35C would fit mechanically - but what the audible result of that pairing would be is a real question mark ? Likewise - wouldn't expect to be able to interchange 35/70 series styli with each other - they might "fit" -they will probably make sound - but the generators have to be really different. I do think the 70 series is probably a little more compatible with the majority of medium mass arms than the SC35C stylus is (apparently the 35 is the MM equivalent of a DL-103 -really sings with high mass arms).

[Doubleplay]

The SC35C generator actually has a lower induction than the V15lll. It could be a killer with the SAS.

[dlaloum]

The SC35C has the exact same inductance specification as the V15VxMR

The M70BX has the same inductance as the M97xE

Both get excellent results with the SAS - but as can also be seen on that Shure spec sheet -the differing bodies require differing loading... and with the SAS thrown in, achieving a neutral tone might require some work with the loading.

[Doubleplay]

Hmm i may be nitpicking, but the M70BX has 600 mH, and the M97xE has 650 mH. So not the same generator.

[dlaloum]

There are variances of over 10% within a particular body type...

I've measured two V15VMR's with inductance of 312mH and 349mH respectively...
I also have two Me75p's with one measuring 550mH and the other 700mH (!) - seems to me that they swapped body types during the production life of this model.

Shure seem to have had only about 5 different body types in total (since the 70's) - although they had a lot more than 5 cartridges!

Body types (using best known "cartridge" - keep in mind at least +/10%)
V15VxMR 1000ohm 420mH
V15VMR 850ohm 330mH (narrow shank)
V15III/IV 1350ohm 500mH (narrow shank)
M97 1550ohm 650mH (M97HE was 700mH)
M70 600ohm 700mH (some variants - 650ohm 720mH)
???? 1350ohm 520mH (1000e, some variants of Me75p, V15HRP, and others)

bye for now

David

[Doubleplay]

A SC35C with a SAS would probably bring you close to a V15VxMR for cheap. The only issue i see, is that it looks like Jico use their standard cantilever on the SAS for the SC35C http://stylus.export-japan.com/product_ ... ts_id=1495

[Cobra2]

Just checked a new SC35C; 405/415mH & 970-990 ohm
And, with some "adjustment"(plastic-cutting), the M92-M111 stylus-series will fit.

Arne K

[dlaloum]

A SC35C with a SAS would probably bring you close to a V15VxMR for cheap. The only issue i see, is that it looks like Jico use their standard cantilever on the SAS for the SC35C http://stylus.export-japan.com/product_ ... ts_id=1495

Makes no sense... - SAS is a description of the combined cantilever/needle construct... best described on the Japanese SAS page: http://shop.jico.co.jp/sas/

They do make styli with the Microridge Namiki stylus on the standard cantilever such as their VN5MR (stylus for V15VMR) - non SAS version...

I think they just messed up with the photos...

[Cobra2]

Just checked a new SC35C; 405/415mH & 970-990 ohm
And, with some "adjustment"(plastic-cutting), the M92-M111 stylus-series will fit.
Arne K

And can confirm that it sounds groovy great with a $ 50 fleabay stylus for "V15-IV-HE" on my Luxman..!

Arne K