dual 1019 and 1228

[kindablue]

I picked up two turntables dual 1019 and dual 1228
They are both in great shape but am going to have them tuned up so to speak.
Anyone familar with these tables and what to watch out for in repair and best of all how they sound. I am currently using Music Hall TT with Stanton cart.
Like to kick around these tables info I mean.
Thanks,

[dualref]

Well, the first thing you should probably do is to clean and relubricate them. Dual recommended that this service be performed every three years or so, but in reality hardly anyone ever did it. The result is that the old lubricants dry out and become sticky. This causes parts on the turntable to bind and cause problems.
There is a thread in this forum called "Lubrication" that contains a lot of information about this subject.
Both of your turntables are idler wheel drive. I would check the idler wheel rubber for flat spots, cracking, hardness, etc. If you find any of that you may need to slightly resurface the rubber with some fine sandpaper. Or else you could send the wheels out for rerubbering for a reasonable cost.
While you didn't mention what cartridges are in the tonearms, I would double check the alignment for each and rebalance the tonearm.
And lastly, I would download the Owners and Service Manuals from the library section here. In the Service Manual there is a lot of information about how to relubricate your turntable. Lubricate only what is indicated and use the lubes mentioned in the Lubrication thread. A overlubricated Dual is worse than one that has not been at all. Some parts depend on friction to work properly.

[mrow2]

I second all of that; the servicing is going to be key to how they both work. I don't know the size of the idler on the 1228 but if it's larger than the one on the 1019 it is possible it will play a little quieter. Depending on where they have been and how they've been stored, if the rubber on those idlers is good and not cracked they will have the potential to be really great machines. The 1019 has a hard-to-find, expensive headshell so be careful with it and know what you are doing with it before you do anything at all. 1019 units are being killed off every day somewhere for body parts and it should not be happening because they are really nice machines.

[riz1965]

Thanks for all that info.I just picked up a 1019 for 5 bucs at a estate sale today. Its in great shape one owner and comes with the original cover/headshell. But and its a big but, it doesn't turn on and the start lever locks. I just had a couple of questions maybe you guys can help me with. Does this unit have a fuse anywhere? Theres a long gray wire that is attached on one end but not the other underneath could this be the problem? Also mine has something I haven't seen on other units on top in the left top corner theres a circulur plastic thing with a metal prong that sits in a round plastic thing lol does anyone know what this is? If you haven't noticed I'm not a turntable guy. Thanks Steve.

[dualref]

It sounds to me like there may be nothing more wrong with your 1019 except for being locked up by old dried out lubricants. That's probably why the start switch appears to be locked up. The lubricants in the switch need to be cleaned out and replaced. That should fix that problem.

When you have a Dual turntable in this condition it is VERY important not to force any parts into operation or "help" them along. Usually when you do this, parts break and on a 1000 series turntable can be very difficult to find.

It sound like the thing in the upper left hand corner you are describing is a 45 RPM disk. This is put on the center spindle when you want to play 45 RPM records which have a larger center hole than 33 LP's do.

[grace1999]

I wanted to recommend a resource for your 1019. I picked one up a few weeks ago, and was blown away by the sound. I actually sold my Pro-ject because I thought the Dual performed much better. That said, it needed some work, so I have sent it off to Bill at Fix My Dual. Bill is fantastic to work with, and completely overhauls the Duals for a really reasonable price. You can get more information at fixmydual.com. The 1019 is regarded by some as the best Dual ever made, so a relatively small investment with Bill will yield a turntable that competes with anything I have heard on the new turntable world for under $1,000. Just my opinion on that one, but I love that 1019...

[tonearm1]

I have a Dual 1019 & a 1229. the 1019 needs a new headshell. seems like they are impossible to get. the 1229 motor starts making noise after about a 30 min of use, but does no lose any speed, anyone know what that may be. also the fix for my 1019 spindle was so easy, a little rubber and crazy glue and i can stack em again...

[Hugues TR4]

Hi Tonearm,

If you are still looking for a 1019 headshell, there are two on auction presently on e-bay (ending within 2 or 3 days) for a reasonable price still.
As for the noise in your 1228, sounds like your motor should be lubricated (new oil in the bearings). You will find all the procedures on this forum: just enter "lubrication" in the search box at the top right of this page.
As for the stacking spindle, I did the same as you did and it works again like new.
Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Hugh.