Wow my Ariston looks more like a Linn?

[vince325]

Hey guys just got a new piece of kit from GB and surprised at how similar it is to a linn. My question is should I mess with it or leave as stock and just get running at a minimum. Some interesting things are

The lid has a prop to hold up.
Single 33 1/3 speed
An amazing bearing that will spin forever when given a push
Motor has 110 and 220 written on it ( can it be wired for 110?)
Flat linn style belt

The bad
The spring have had it
SME have no experience
only one speed

Would love some comments thanks in advance

[Alec124c41]

The original Linn was a direct copy of the Ariston, by the factory that was engaged to manufacture the Ariston.

Cheers,
Alec

[LPfan]

The motor can be wired for 110 volts, but you have to also make sure that your pulley dia matches the supply frequency of your local utility.

Regards,

LPfan

[Blue Angel]

As Alec said, Linn turntables look a lot like your Ariston

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[vince325]

OK that is interesting so most of my need parts should be linn. Any idea where I can find that part? They motors arent that expensive might make sense to just replace it, is there a recommended brand? When I turn the motor turs there is a feeling like the shaft is toothed as I can feel ticks is that normal or just wore out? Thanks guys.

[Alec124c41]

Try adding a little light oil to the motor bearings.

Cheers,
Alec

[sq225917]

The standard Ariston motor will be rigged for 240 volts, as was the standard at the time. If the motor can happily be used with 11/120v then you'll find there's a 6.8 kilo ohm resistor sat next to that small yellow capacitor (I think i can see it). Because the motor is an Ac synchronous (in sync with the frequency of the mains) it runs at 50hz in Europe and 60hz in the US. So the motor needs to have the correct US 60hz pulley on it. There is zero chnace of being all to find and fit the correct pulley for that old motor as it uses a much larger shaft OD, so the best bet is to replace it. Speak to Edmond, the Hercules guy and buy a Hercules with US motor from him and fit it to the deck. job done.

Looking at the deck, and lack of crossbrace to mount the Hercules you will probably need the Mose kit that he sells.

[Steerpike_jhb]

When I turn the motor turs there is a feeling like the shaft is toothed as I can feel ticks is that normal or just wore out? Thanks guys.

That is correct and normal, it is designed to be that way.

[steve195527]

The original Linn was a direct copy of the Ariston, by the factory that was engaged to manufacture the Ariston.

Cheers,
Alec

there were a few differences,the sub-chassis is stamped slightly differently,there is a clutch type thingy on motor of Ariston to aid starting,the rocker switch is turned 90deg in comparison,not sure which you would say is turned though,and I think your Ariston will have a ball in the main bearing as opposed to the point bearing of the Linn,mine did from same era,I think the original Ariston with two switches had a point bearing as that was one Linn factory at Drakemire Drive(think that was Castle Engineerings address:-Ivors dads place!) had a hand in making

[SteveM]

And the plinth, there's extra wood strips at the back & right side on the Ariston.

[hoolio]

It looks like a Linn!!

[steve195527]

This is the ad/statement Linn placed in HiFi news and Record review:-

"Please note that Castle Precision Engineering(Glasgow) Ltd.,241 Drakemire Drive,Castlemilk,Glasgow,G45 9SZ,wish it to be known that they have designed(Design Copyright),Developed(Patent Pending) The special bearing and bearing housing assembly,and pressed steel chassis incorporated into the transcription deck sold up to December 1972 under the name Ariston RD 11.In order to satisfy consumer demands,we have purchased new premises adjacent to the present factory and formed the company of Linn Products Ltd and are now manufacturing our own unique product,the " Linn-Sondek LP 12" transcription deck."
The Ribs that gave the sub-chassis rigidity are different on a Linn than in the pics of the RD11 in this thread,and I would guess this RD11 has a ball bearing in the main bearing rather than the single point bearing used in the Linn

[rkay5]

Hi,
Very nice find if you are in 60Hz power land for power have a look at the Mose/Hercules power supply that way you won't have get a new pulley as it can change 60hz power to 50Hz to power the get a hold of Edmond123(maker of Mose/Hercules) here at the vinyl engine.Also have a look in the first post in this forum.

[avole]

That looks like an original RD 11 and the date is right, so you can use the Linn spring kit. You could also upgrade the power supply as it's the same motor as Linn, but I wouldn't spend a fortune on upgrades.

A standard Linn armboard will fit, or you can make them yourself.