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Postby RoDa » 05 Feb 2011 02:14

What next?

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I'm too scared to try an acryl platter... :oops:
The reason is that I'm very happy with the sound now and I don't want to risk too big a change in the presentation.
Colour me yellow :D


But I do want to try a different mat.
The search for leather has begun, but I'm also looking at other possibilities.

Wich are the most popular mats for Regas?

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Postby Cobra2 » 05 Feb 2011 21:07

If you are too chicken to try a full platter, atleast try an acrylic mat!

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Postby HBA » 10 Feb 2011 03:02

Cobra2 wrote:If you are too chicken to try a full platter, atleast try an acrylic mat!

Arne K



Try this isolation system :

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttfeet.htm

Just incredible..I have added 4 under my P9 and the results were amazing.

The mats are also incredible...much. much better than the original one ( not only the looking but much more the sound improvement you got )

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttmat.htm

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttmat.htm

I almost forgot : as always, you took really great photos !!!!

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Groovetracer subplatter owners manual/directions

Postby jrobby » 10 Feb 2011 17:13

Hi RoDa. I was so impressed with your subplatter post and your photos
that I bought a used Groovetracer to install on my new/used P5. The original seller
did not have the instruction manual that came with the Groovetracer. I was wondering if you could upload the manual to VE. I only put a couple of drops
of oil on the bearing and I just want to make sure that is enough. It does improve the sound for sure. I'm really loving it.

Regards, Jim
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Re: Groovetracer subplatter owners manual/directions

Postby Frank_Sm » 10 Feb 2011 18:20

jrobby wrote:Hi RoDa. I was so impressed with your subplatter post and your photos
that I bought a used Groovetracer to install on my new/used P5. The original seller
did not have the instruction manual that came with the Groovetracer. I was wondering if you could upload the manual to VE. I only put a couple of drops
of oil on the bearing and I just want to make sure that is enough. It does improve the sound for sure. I'm really loving it.

Regards, Jim


Hi Jim, Send me an email through the Groovetracer website and I'll email you the instructions.
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Postby RoDa » 13 Feb 2011 18:56

HBA wrote:
Cobra2 wrote:If you are too chicken to try a full platter, atleast try an acrylic mat!

Arne K



Try this isolation system :

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttfeet.htm

Just incredible..I have added 4 under my P9 and the results were amazing.

The mats are also incredible...much. much better than the original one ( not only the looking but much more the sound improvement you got )

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttmat.htm

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttmat.htm

I almost forgot : as always, you took really great photos !!!!

Regards,



Thanks HBA :)

Actually I have a Herbie's Mat on loan for the moment.
Clearly a difference, but I will have to listen some more to make up my mind.

Did you replace the original feet with the ones from Herbie's?

P9, you lucky man 8)

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Re: Groovetracer subplatter owners manual/directions

Postby RoDa » 13 Feb 2011 18:59

jrobby wrote:Hi RoDa. I was so impressed with your subplatter post and your photos
that I bought a used Groovetracer to install on my new/used P5. The original seller
did not have the instruction manual that came with the Groovetracer. I was wondering if you could upload the manual to VE. I only put a couple of drops
of oil on the bearing and I just want to make sure that is enough. It does improve the sound for sure. I'm really loving it.

Regards, Jim


Looks like Frank came to the resque.
Gongrats with the subplatter :)

Really nice to hear you are loving the subplatter, since I'm guilty of making you buy one :D :D

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Postby pulsetsar » 14 Feb 2011 16:36

RoDa wrote:What next?

I'm too scared to try an acryl platter... :oops:
The reason is that I'm very happy with the sound now and I don't want to risk too big a change in the presentation.
Colour me yellow :D


But I do want to try a different mat.
The search for leather has begun, but I'm also looking at other possibilities.

Wich are the most popular mats for Regas?

Best Regards
Rolf


I, too, wanted to try a new mat but didn't want to spend a ton of money. I picked up a Music Hall cork mat for about $50. It's thin enough that no VTA adjustment was needed, as it keeps the record at about the same height as the stock Rega mat. This was my first and only mat experiment, but I was pleased with the results. The biggest and most immediately noticeable difference was in high frequency extension; the second in the overall improved and more realistic timbre of instruments; and the third in the bass, which was tighter and more focused. I then also noticed that during complex passages the sound was less congested with instruments having tighter and more defined images on a broader soundstage. Overall, a pretty good deal. A thoughtful touch Music Hall includes is a removable center record label support. They recommend removing it for records with "thick" labels. I did agree with this as the thicker records had an "overdamped" sound with the support in place. Thankfully, I only have a few with thick enough labels for this to matter much, so I'm rarely doing any swapping. Probably the best part of this mat is that it no longer comes off the platter when I lift the record; the stock Rega mat used to drive me crazy with this!

I don't know if the more expensive ones such as the Ringmat will make a huge difference over this or an incremental one, but I'm not likely to try them out for a while since I'm enjoying this mat so much.
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Postby brianmch » 20 Feb 2011 03:38

While we're talking upgrades and feet, I'll chime in.

Had an opportunity to use some vibrapod #3 feet under the stock feet and it is a clear improvement. The feet will support more weight and properly scaled ones may work better or worse, but I clearly got a layer of the grunge removed.

I've not been able to try other feet, and previously had laughed them off, but they DO make a difference for the good.

And, having been a naysayer, I must admit that records cleaned with a RCM do sound better than hand cleaned records (with solution) which is better than just dusted off.
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Postby brassnwood » 20 Feb 2011 20:08

brianmch,
To continue with 'feet'
They do make a huge difference, including positioning of...
I removed the Rega feet & placed two home made brass footers @ the back & one @ the front in line with the main bearing.
It really is worth experimenting :lol:
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Postby RoDa » 21 Feb 2011 00:39

Interesting discussion about feet for the Rega!




I have been trying the Herbie's Mat for a while, not ready to say "Yiiihha!!" yet....
It's both good and not so good. :roll:




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Postby nabil » 21 Feb 2011 05:22

This is interesting Rolf, because in my P25 the Herbie's Way Excellent Mat II is clearly superior to the Rega felt mat in every way.
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Postby RoDa » 21 Feb 2011 09:47

Very interesting indeed, nabil!
Could you describe how the Herbie's is better?
It changes the sound, no discussion about that, the interesting part is why these changes are considered good or bad.




A pic of the Herbie's on my P5.

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Postby RoDa » 21 Feb 2011 09:53

A bit off-topic but......

I have been using Picasa from Google for my photo editing.
But last week I tried Elements from PhotoShop.
Ain't going back!! :D

Beeing able to take pictures i RAW-format and editing in a proper program, wow!


A few new pics

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playing with colours

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Detail from my Bowers & Wilkins CM9

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