My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

[brianmch]

wellll...pray tell on upgrade 4

[RoDa]

Pics'n'tales coming up, brianmch, as soon as it arrives.

BR
Rolf

[plastico]

Hello RoDa. I too got the white belt as an upgrade. My first belt made my table sound wavery. I sent it back and they-Analogue Seduction, sent me a replacement. I installed it and noticed that it produced a slight tone warble like the first one, but not as severe.I then decided to listen to a 45 RPM recording and WOW! Now thats what I paid for! I,m thinking that when I installed it on the small pulley it was twisted a bit, and when I switched to the bigger pulley it straightened itself out. Now the speed is dead on 33 1/3. I have the Groovetracer subplatter and acrylic platter as well on my P3.

[zfidel]

As for the white/beige belt.....
Thinking that the slight wobble on my motor pulley can affect the thicker whitebelt more than it does the original.
Also my whitebelt looks uneven (in thickness) and it doesn't stay in one place on my subplatter. The original belt looks perfect, no up an down movement on the subplatter.
Piano is a good test, I agree.

Just got the new white belt for my P3-24 with the TT PSU. No pitch instability noted. Nor does the belt seem to move up and down on my (original Rega) subplatter. Piano recordings sounds just fine. My KAB SpeedStrobe Disc agrees. IMO the belt made for a somewhat tighter bass, noticeable so.

[Bob_in_OKC]

I bought my P5 used and then added the TTPSU and a machined subplatter. Both upgrades were noticeable and very nice improvements to my ears, but I feel like I heard more of a difference with the TTPSU. I figure I'm done with upgrading the P5 now...other than cartridges. With plenty of life left in my current cartridge I have a long time to consider my options, but I'm already looking around for others' reactions to LOMC cartridges on similar Rega turntables.

[RoDa]

Hello RoDa. I too got the white belt as an upgrade. My first belt made my table sound wavery. I sent it back and they-Analogue Seduction, sent me a replacement. I installed it and noticed that it produced a slight tone warble like the first one, but not as severe.I then decided to listen to a 45 RPM recording and WOW! Now thats what I paid for! I,m thinking that when I installed it on the small pulley it was twisted a bit, and when I switched to the bigger pulley it straightened itself out. Now the speed is dead on 33 1/3. I have the Groovetracer subplatter and acrylic platter as well on my P3.

Thanks for the input, plastico.
This tone warble just annoyed me too much, now with the blackbelt I find myself enjoying the sound from the turntable more.

Will send an e-mail to Analogue Seduction to hear if they have had customer feedback regarding the white belts.
The first belt I ordered didn't arrive, but AS sent me a new one free of charge. Thumbs up!

I'm very interested in your thoughts on the acrylic platter!

BR
Rolf

[plastico]

When I had my glass platter I used several mats; non felt, felt, leather, ringmat mk111, and finally a carbon fibre mat. They all gave a different presentation, edgy, soft, pleasant etc. None of them drew me in to the music. I had my Groovetracer subplatter when all of this was happening. I decided to pull the trigger and get the Groovetracer Acrylic platter. Boy, what took me so long?!! Number 1 - the platter is the same weight as the glass. Number 2- it rotates with the utmost precision! My glass platter WOBBLED!! And finally, it made me want to put on another record, as everything became more like music. I was noticing more in those grooves! I sold the glass platter that same week.

[RoDa]

Just got the new white belt for my P3-24 with the TT PSU. No pitch instability noted. Nor does the belt seem to move up and down on my (original Rega) subplatter. Piano recordings sounds just fine. My KAB SpeedStrobe Disc agrees. IMO the belt made for a somewhat tighter bass, noticeable so.

I really enjoyed the changes in the sound from the TT with the white belt on, but the speed issues were too annoying. Maybe I'm very sensitive to this?

BR
R

[RoDa]

I bought my P5 used and then added the TTPSU and a machined subplatter. Both upgrades were noticeable and very nice improvements to my ears, but I feel like I heard more of a difference with the TTPSU. I figure I'm done with upgrading the P5 now...other than cartridges. With plenty of life left in my current cartridge I have a long time to consider my options, but I'm already looking around for others' reactions to LOMC cartridges on similar Rega turntables.

I'm not shure about wich upgrade made the biggest improvement.
My bias was maybe set differently for the two.....
The Groovetracer was a shure thing and just matched my (high) expectations, while the TT-PSU caught me by surprise.
Both nice upgrades, I agree.
Done upgrading? Not looking into counterweight and mat?

BR
R

[RoDa]

When I had my glass platter I used several mats; non felt, felt, leather, ringmat mk111, and finally a carbon fibre mat. They all gave a different presentation, edgy, soft, pleasant etc. None of them drew me in to the music. I had my Groovetracer subplatter when all of this was happening. I decided to pull the trigger and get the Groovetracer Acrylic platter. Boy, what took me so long?!! Number 1 - the platter is the same weight as the glass. Number 2- it rotates with the utmost precision! My glass platter WOBBLED!! And finally, it made me want to put on another record, as everything became more like music. I was noticing more in those grooves! I sold the glass platter that same week.

Thanks for the input, and arrgghhh..... Just realized that I might have to check out the platter too

BR
R

[zfidel]

I really enjoyed the changes in the sound from the TT with the white belt on, but the speed issues were too annoying. Maybe I'm very sensitive to this?

Or just unlucky with the quality of the whitebelt you received, as Frank ("mr Groovetracer") suggested earlier on here. Or, could it be the whitebelt- rubber simply would not properly "grip" on the polished (and thus "slippery") texture of your new Groovtracer subplatter? Thus producing the slight but noticeable variation in speed?

[thumpin]

There's no way the belt would slip on the subplatters unless the subplatter is contaminated with some sort of lubricant

I'm surprised that minute belt thickness speed variations can be heard by ear Even when the Rega motor drive pulley slip on the shaft it hard to hear. BTW, have you checked your pulley RoDa?
Some recordings are bad enough to some like speed variation. I would focus my attention to this more than belts.

[RoDa]

Or just unlucky with the quality of the whitebelt you received, as Frank ("mr Groovetracer") suggested earlier on here. Or, could it be the whitebelt- rubber simply would not properly "grip" on the polished (and thus "slippery") texture of your new Groovtracer subplatter? Thus producing the slight but noticeable variation in speed?

Nope, the grip is good.

BR
R

[RoDa]

I'm surprised that minute belt thickness speed variations can be heard by ear Even when the Rega motor drive pulley slip on the shaft it hard to hear. BTW, have you checked your pulley RoDa?
Some recordings are bad enough to some like speed variation. I would focus my attention to this more than belts.

G'day

I'm also confused, surprised and annoyed that this can be heard.
But when the small variations from the original subplatter can be heard when it's replaced by a metal one, it seems more believeable that the same could be true for the belt..?

I have noticed that the pulley has a slight wobble, barely noticeable.
(I have seen it when the light fell on the top of the pulley once. Maybe I'll post a video of this if I can catch it on film)
If someone knows a how-to remove/refit the motor pulley, please let me know.
Would like to check if the motor pulley or the axle is the source of the wobble.

The white belt is tighter than the original, so it's possible that it affects the pulley? All is good when I'm using the original belt, though.

BR
R