Cheeky I know ....but thought I would try my own....

[JaS]

the use of a few choice words in the marketing/advertising spiel, such as "exotic, purposed-designed" and "very expensive isolating material" and "closed cell, cross-linked ethylene copolymer structure" ensures unknowing people think it is worth the silly asking price, and that the product has truly been made from these "purpose designed" components

Agreed, if the material really was purpose-designed then he'd have patented it and wouldn't mind explaining a little more about its unique properties. If not then its just so much BS, any other claims for the device have to be taken with a pinch of salt and the DIY route makes even more sense.

Regards,
JaS

[Seb]

well, I don't know if it works or not but some people seems to thinks that it's working :

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl? ... 1130616772

Now, 150$ / 85 £ !!

regards

Seb

[Gerard]

Very interesting......I agree with them....I was a sceptic!!!
I've sent some plates to make them to another forumer so will be interesting to see what he makes of it....he got them this morning.
Gerard

[JaS]

Great, let us know how he gets on. Unlike most tweaks this looks like one whose effect should be easily heard.

Regards,
JaS

[audioorigami]

well...not quite sure about where i stand on this 1...i havent tryed 1

...seems like BLUE TAC would be very similar and fit almost carts unnoticed...and cheap ....and easy to try

[Seb]

blue tac !! too cheap man !!

regards

Seb

[audioorigami]

heheheh cheap ....well i have some HRRMMM audio grade blue tac that i can sell for £80
hweehhe only joking...but its true the more you charge the more people belive


best wishes
j7

[Seb]

now, the opinion of TNT-audio :

http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories/isolator_e.html

regards

Seb

[Gerard]

Very interesting...I especially liked this bit:
"......

The Isolator costs £85. My first instinct on seeing something like this is to look to see how I could achieve the same effect for less. I looks like it should be easy, after all it seems so simple, but when you look carefully, even if you did have access to the 'wonder stuff' it would be very difficult to make a copy - I wouldn't know where to start. By that measure alone it must therefore be at least reasonable value for money. But the problem is that is makes a difference wholly disproportionate to its appearance or cost...."

I wonder how Rob42 has got on with his?????

Gerard

[Rob42]

He would love to say - it was fab, but the week-end didnt go as expected.
Will do my best to find a little time to make up an isolator { thanks for the plates Gerry } ( have just read the tnt site, so its not neoprene, epp maybe,have some of that too - used to make airframes )

The reason for the delay was a new toy from Arthur ( ex- pink triangle, Funk master) a new matt!!
I didnt think it would make much difference on PT platter - but it has so kept playing vinyl.

[Blue Angel]

Hello Rob & Gerard

This stuff between the plates. Can only be a butyl derivative. I made numerous experiments a few years ago trying to find an acoustical dampening agent. Nothing worked properly until the word 'butyl' cropped up. Check this word on google. You may even make a better job than the GBP85 item. Also, try aluminium for the plates as this is a sonically 'dead' metal. If you're worried about the locating studs, press-fit them.

Regards

Blue Angel

[audioorigami]

it looks like 2 wee thin metal plates and some of that foam you get in packageing

coss its slightly bigger than cart...looks hard to see the cartridge to set the tracking as well

mmm...well without trying 1 its hard to say

j7

[Rob42]

Blue Angel
thanks for that - I have some thin pads of panel damping material - I'll give that a go once I get to the deck -tonight I hope.

Rob

[Gerard]

Blue Angel

Yes the plate is aluminum. I've only used one as I don't think I could apply glue thin enough or even enough....hence the double sided sticky foam...which is open cell and has a good compression rebound.

Johnnie

Trust me.....the alignment of a DL103 is sooooo much easier with this on than off!!! The plate is the same width as the cartridge and have the nuts glued to top late makes moving a doddle.

Here is another device which has been around a while and costs about £32:

http://www.arthifi.it/ENG%20head.htm

Gerard