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Postby classicstylus » 27 Jun 2011 15:52

Paul, thanks for the links. It looks like my 35 cm record dates from 1911, plays at 90 rpm and from the label outwards! I don't think I'll be playing it any time soon, but I'll keep it safe.

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Postby Blue Angel » 27 Jun 2011 16:03

I guess I have around 800 shellac records including a couple of these hill and dale Pathe records.

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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby ThomAudioGuy » 01 May 2012 20:28

Back to J.S. Bach's original question, I recently picked up some 78 sets at a local thrift store, and one 5-record RCA Victor set has one record with EXACTLY the same embossing as in J.S. Bach's photo. I thought it was cool too, and it was immediately evident it was "filler" (in this case, side #10)for a musical piece that filled only 9 sides of a 10-side album set. If you stare hard, you'll see the embossing has a fast-spiral groove to the center so your automatic changer (Capehart 16E anyone?)would bypass that side quickly and go on changing records. I don't know when, or for how long, RCA Victor did this. Maybe somebody can date my sample, RCA Victor DM-705, Beethoven Concert in D Major, Op.61, Jascha Heifetz, violinist, Arturo Toscanini and the NBC Symphony Orchestra.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby Coffee Phil » 02 May 2012 00:45

Hi ThomAudioGuy,

If I am working this site:http://rateyourmusic.com/label/rca_victor correctly it is looking like 1940.

That is believable with the personal whic you have listed.

Phil


ThomAudioGuy wrote:Back to J.S. Bach's original question, I recently picked up some 78 sets at a local thrift store, and one 5-record RCA Victor set has one record with EXACTLY the same embossing as in J.S. Bach's photo. I thought it was cool too, and it was immediately evident it was "filler" (in this case, side #10)for a musical piece that filled only 9 sides of a 10-side album set. If you stare hard, you'll see the embossing has a fast-spiral groove to the center so your automatic changer (Capehart 16E anyone?)would bypass that side quickly and go on changing records. I don't know when, or for how long, RCA Victor did this. Maybe somebody can date my sample, RCA Victor DM-705, Beethoven Concert in D Major, Op.61, Jascha Heifetz, violinist, Arturo Toscanini and the NBC Symphony Orchestra.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby J. S. Bach » 04 May 2012 18:02

[quote="ThomAudioGuy"]
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I don't know when, or for how long, RCA Victor did this.
...snip...
/quote]

First, I was surprised to see this thread back at the top. Anyway to answer this, somewhere in my stash I have (or had) some 12" VICTOR single-sided acoustic 78s that had very similar embossing on the back but without the RCA part. There may have been 7" examples too, but I do not have any now.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby 4hf-nick » 09 May 2012 20:33

hi have a few 78s and have found this single sided thing does occur the couple i have in mind are tunes with a proper label-im afraid i cant help with any details other than its not too un-common,good luck finding out what it is.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby elgobbes » 07 Jul 2012 10:34

This is one that I found a couple of years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLPTs6MOJIU
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby Coffee Phil » 07 Jul 2012 14:31

That record sounded remarkably good. It is amazing what one can get from a ~ 100 year old record with a bit of effort.

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elgobbes wrote:This is one that I found a couple of years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLPTs6MOJIU
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby cactuscowboy » 07 Jul 2012 17:26

I have a 12" disc very similar to this with embossing on one side. However my disc has a blank white label on the recorded side with no matrix numbers whatsoever.

I played it and was quite surprised to hear it was a party record. A male narrator telling a story in a party setting. He describes a "broken down old whore" being abused by old "Simon LeGree" etc... Laced with profanities etc....

I've got a few party records, but this is the only one that's seemingly on the RCA Victor label.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby elgobbes » 07 Jul 2012 21:57

Coffee Phil wrote:That record sounded remarkably good. It is amazing what one can get from a ~ 100 year old record with a bit of effort.

Phil


elgobbes wrote:This is one that I found a couple of years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLPTs6MOJIU


I tried to play it on a lower quality table to reduece surface noise, but the motor kept turning off when I tried to play it from the beginning. I really want to try some wood glue on it, but am reluctant because I'm not sure what material it's made from.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby Coffee Phil » 08 Jul 2012 05:12

I'm guessing that it is shellac. I don't know if the wood glue trick is OK on shellac. I would research that before trying it. Absolutely keep alcohol away from the record. It is death for shellac records.

Phil

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Coffee Phil wrote:That record sounded remarkably good. It is amazing what one can get from a ~ 100 year old record with a bit of effort.

Phil


elgobbes wrote:This is one that I found a couple of years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLPTs6MOJIU


I tried to play it on a lower quality table to reduece surface noise, but the motor kept turning off when I tried to play it from the beginning. I really want to try some wood glue on it, but am reluctant because I'm not sure what material it's made from.
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby moongravy » 08 Jul 2012 11:31

Coffee Phil wrote:I'm guessing that it is shellac. I don't know if the wood glue trick is OK on shellac. I would research that before trying it. Absolutely keep alcohol away from the record. It is death for shellac records.


Don't use the glue method on shellac, it strips a fair amount of disc away with it.

I found out the hard way:-(
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Re: I Found This Very Odd Single-Sided Record...

Postby elgobbes » 09 Jul 2012 04:19

moongravy wrote:
Coffee Phil wrote:I'm guessing that it is shellac. I don't know if the wood glue trick is OK on shellac. I would research that before trying it. Absolutely keep alcohol away from the record. It is death for shellac records.


Don't use the glue method on shellac, it strips a fair amount of disc away with it.

I found out the hard way:-(


Yea, I wouldn't use glue on shellac. I don't think it's shellac though.
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