So you refuse to answer my question.desktop wrote:Although I hate the entire concept of "my audio expert is righter than your audio expert" I will start a thread here called "wideband listening" and I will use references. My opinion is that everyone should do 2 things to quantify their listening opinions; 1) get their hearing tested as a base reference, 2) they should go out to facilities (like retailers) who offer wideband loudspeaker systems with phase alignment, AND LISTEN TO THEM. Then I'd like to continue the discussion, based on what we have heard or not heard.
I always found that listening with my own ears was better than having anyone tell me what things are supposed to sound like "according to whoever". I was personally shocked by how well and much the 17,000 students tested in an ad campaign, actually were able to hear, in conditions that were very good, but not assigned. Of course, in this test, I was more interested in finding out whether extended high frequencies, as designed into ESS loudspeakers (now a similar loudspeaker/ultra-tweeter is made by AMT loudspeakers) was going to get votes as sounding "better" compared to all the other cone, horn, midrange-only (have to list Bose hear for completeness although their concept paper is not at all logical), or other designs.
Of course this was during 1977/1978 that the ESS test was done. The best part is that the ESS test found out so much more than the fact that wideband loudspeakers sounded better than non-wideband loudspeakers. But that will be for another AES paper of mine. Out of a crowd of 1400 people when I gave my own AES paper, only about 70 people actually understood the 'new-ish" concept I was proposing. I did get a standing ovation from those contingencies but I felt that to a great extent my paper fell on deaf ears.
No worries. I made a million dollars on the un-usable science I learned while doing the ESS test, plus the EPCOT/Tokyo DIsneyland test. What others threw away as unusable to their projects, I turned into something of value.
But because referencing seems to be more important than listening to some people, I will start the other thread. Then I will come back and try to answer any non-who's-paper-says what questions that have been posed here in a simple format I can reply to directly.
That says it all, really.