Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

amplifiers, receivers and loudspeakers
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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by juggerjay1975 » 17 Sep 2019 01:11

ADS L520 speakers for $40 - CraigsList about 10 years ago
New Advent Loudspeakers (already re-foamed) $80 - Estate sale
Harmon Kardon 430 twin powered receiver $40 - Craigslist about 10 years ago
Scott PS-17a turntable - free at an estate sale, they gave it away because they thought it was broken but it just needed a new belt.

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by spensar » 17 Sep 2019 16:06

jugger, nice inexpensive vintage system. The ADS L520 speakers look like they have a nice soft dome Philips tweeter that were in a number of speakers of that era. They look the tweeters that were in a pair of Advance A-IIs I had in university.

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by juggerjay1975 » 17 Sep 2019 18:56

that's cool. I really love the sound of the ADS. I just switched them out for the Advents. I'm still getting used to them. Not sure which pair I like better. I'm not using the Scott in my main room. I use a Sharp Optonica TT. I gotta tell ya, with that faux granite plinth, I never have had the needle skip and that's with 3 young boys stomping around the house! Here's a pic.
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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by Adamo0926 » 22 Sep 2019 22:19

spensar wrote:
14 Sep 2019 17:46
A very nice morning! The rain held off, and I found my first old school Sansui, a beauty of Sansui Seven, and for $15. The case is pretty well immaculate, and first testing with just AM and FM looks good - both channels getting signals, all the lights and meters work and the knobs are solid. It's 36 watts but has the features of the monsters - 2 phone jacks, 3 speaker outs, amp/pre-amp jumpers, plus a mid-range control in addition to treble and bass. Very sweet unit. An interesting feature is that lighted sections get turned off if the input does not need it, so full lights for FM, while AUX goes black with just a red AUX showing- this may not be everyone's cup of tea but may be why the lights are all still working. The pictures are as found, other than a light dusting of the cover.

Also picked up a pair of KOSS M80 Plus speakers for $15, very nice sounding small speaker.

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There is a very easy mod that will keep the face lights on when you select AUX, PHONO1 and PHONO2. I had my tech do it for my Sansui Eight and it's less than 1 hour of labor. Why in God's name would any designer want to have those lights turn off when selecting the other inputs ? The thing is a beauty when lit up. Well they call the Sansui Eight "the engineers receiver"....and I think that the engineers must have designed all of that particular series and locked the creative people out of the room.

The face that the tuner face and meters went totally black almost kept me from buying my Eight. But then I learned that an easy mod was available to get around that horrible design decision !

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Post by spensar » 22 Sep 2019 22:43

Thanks Adam, I read about your mod in the Sansui thread as well. Perhaps the engineers calculated extending bulb life!

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by Tinkaroo » 23 Sep 2019 10:47

Adamo0926 wrote:
22 Sep 2019 22:19
spensar wrote:
14 Sep 2019 17:46
A very nice morning! The rain held off, and I found my first old school Sansui, a beauty of Sansui Seven, and for $15. The case is pretty well immaculate, and first testing with just AM and FM looks good - both channels getting signals, all the lights and meters work and the knobs are solid. It's 36 watts but has the features of the monsters - 2 phone jacks, 3 speaker outs, amp/pre-amp jumpers, plus a mid-range control in addition to treble and bass. Very sweet unit. An interesting feature is that lighted sections get turned off if the input does not need it, so full lights for FM, while AUX goes black with just a red AUX showing- this may not be everyone's cup of tea but may be why the lights are all still working. The pictures are as found, other than a light dusting of the cover.

Also picked up a pair of KOSS M80 Plus speakers for $15, very nice sounding small speaker.

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There is a very easy mod that will keep the face lights on when you select AUX, PHONO1 and PHONO2. I had my tech do it for my Sansui Eight and it's less than 1 hour of labor. Why in God's name would any designer want to have those lights turn off when selecting the other inputs ? The thing is a beauty when lit up. Well they call the Sansui Eight "the engineers receiver"....and I think that the engineers must have designed all of that particular series and locked the creative people out of the room.

The face that the tuner face and meters went totally black almost kept me from buying my Eight. But then I learned that an easy mod was available to get around that horrible design decision !
I'm not sure it was solely an engineers decision on the blackout dial going black on phono and auxiliary since they carried it throughout their lineup and it's even on the later Sansui 9090 too. I have it on my 4000, 2000X and 9090. I am sure there were other manufacturers who did it too.

If the contacts on the switch that control the lights broke and went to permanent black out on all functions I might consider the "on all the time" mod, but for the sake of originality I will stick with what it came with.Besides that the build quality, performance and sound quality are what really matters and the blackout feature makes it somewhat unique.

My Pioneer SX-939 blacks out when off but the dial lights stay on with all functions.There is a mystery that goes along with the black out dial and a bit of magic when the lights come on!

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by Japi Roelofs » 23 Sep 2019 22:05

As promised, some pictures of the Pioneer PL-15C I got a couple of weeks ago.
Of course I forgot to take proper 'before' pics #-o

But I did take some pics. Here you can see how the fake wood vinyl had peeled away, probably caused by heat and something heavy sitting on top of the dust cover:
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Post by Japi Roelofs » 23 Sep 2019 22:07

On newer models of the PL-15 there's a sticker on the back with the model type, which would of course be gone when the vinyl is removed. On this oldie there's a metal badge that can be re-attached.
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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by truedeth » 23 Sep 2019 22:33

Got this mystery turntable today for $15. It's a Pioneer PL-960 which is NOT IN THE DATABASE!!
Very strange. It still had the protective label on the button area and the arm! Minor cleaning up and it was ready to go! This is everything my dad wanted; direct drive, quartz lock, easy to use. The original headshell was an Audio Technica p-mount but had no needle so I swapped one from a Sony turntable. The cover has no cracks and the hinges are still strong. Pretty excited for him to have this turntable.
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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by circularvibes » 23 Sep 2019 22:49

Japi, that is a truly stunning turntable you created.

truedeth, that table is ideal for your father. congrats on the deal.

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by truedeth » 23 Sep 2019 22:59

circularvibes wrote:
23 Sep 2019 22:49

truedeth, that table is ideal for your father. congrats on the deal.
I agree! I'm glad him and mom will be able to listen to their vinyl again after so many years without a turntable!

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by spensar » 23 Sep 2019 23:18

Japi Roelofs wrote:
23 Sep 2019 22:05
As promised, some pictures of the Pioneer PL-15C I got a couple of weeks ago.
Fantastic, thanks for sharing. I really like seeing project and clean up pics.

truedeth - nice pick up for Dad. Soooo much better than the new cheapies.

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by truedeth » 23 Sep 2019 23:33

spensar wrote:
23 Sep 2019 23:18
Japi Roelofs wrote:
23 Sep 2019 22:05
As promised, some pictures of the Pioneer PL-15C I got a couple of weeks ago.
Fantastic, thanks for sharing. I really like seeing project and clean up pics.

truedeth - nice pick up for Dad. Soooo much better than the new cheapies.
Yeah I refused to let him buy a Crosley or an Ion just so he can destroy his classic collection
Also, phenomenal job restoring that turntable Japi!

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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by spensar » 24 Sep 2019 04:12

A couple of classic Duals found last weekend. A 1009 SK2 with a Pickering P/AC-1 and a 1019 with a Shure M44. I have not been looking to much for gear but I can't pass up classics like these :-) The 1019 is in nice shape, all functions ok but the idler wheel is shot. It came from a family where the dad bought it in 1966. The 1009 SK2 is a tad rough with nasty sounds but a very nice plinth and cover. $25 for both...
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Re: Cheap-Skates & Dumpster Diver's Club

Post by vinyl master » 24 Sep 2019 06:42

Spensar, Japi and truedeth...I must say you guys are all making me proud! I could cry, but in a good way! :cry: :wink:

Nice saves on those and it reaffirms my belief that great budget turntables can still be found without reverting to cheap builds and piss-poor quality! =D>

Any one of those would be a fantastic gift for someone...or just a nice gift to oneself! :wink:

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