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Postby v1nn1e » 28 Jan 2012 00:36

I think I posted this somewhere else too but anyway, for those that live in the UK, the BBC did a posthumous documentary 'Billionaire Hippy' on Steve Jobs and one of the photos of him sitting on the floor in his sparsely furnished house, maybe early 80's at a guess, definately shows a Gyrodeck in the background :wink:
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Spectre » 16 Mar 2012 19:20

I've seen the photo and it seems odd that he should have such a high quality playback device seeing as he was behind the widespread acceptance of both i tunes and MP3. The two things I detest with a passion as they are definitely a regression in sound quality compared to a fine turntable. Steve you put money before quality and I cannot forgive this.
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Alec124c41 » 17 Mar 2012 05:07

Niel Young had some discussion with him about music reproduction. It seems that Steve Jobs listened to vinyl at home, not to digital sources.
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby JaS » 17 Mar 2012 08:54

Alec124c41 wrote:Niel Young had some discussion with him about music reproduction. It seems that Steve Jobs listened to vinyl at home, not to digital sources.

It sounds like Steve Jobs had his priorities right :wink:

Ipod = work
Vinyl = pleasure

I also heard a rumour that he used a PC and an Android phone at home :shock:

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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby bogle111 » 17 Mar 2012 10:45

JaS wrote:I also heard a rumour that he used a PC and an Android phone at home :shock:
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3 possibilities there I reckon:

1. Presents from Bill.
2. "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer"
3. Rumour

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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Aural Addict » 19 Mar 2012 13:55

Steve jobs was an audiophile, but knew what the public wanted and gave that to them. How is that odd to believe? He didn't come up with the iPod. He also supported lossless codecs, but didn't offer them through the iTunes store because of storage space. Remember Beta vs VHS?
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Spectre » 20 Mar 2012 18:42

Aural Addict wrote:Steve jobs was an audiophile, but knew what the public wanted and gave that to them. How is that odd to believe? He didn't come up with the iPod. He also supported lossless codecs, but didn't offer them through the iTunes store because of storage space. Remember Beta vs VHS?


1) As a member of the public I never wanted low such a low quality audio codec to become widely acceptable, some older classical recordings are only available as downloads, its barely listenable. Only this morning listening to BBC radio 3 the announcer actually apologized for the compressed quality of the music he'd just played.

2) I realize I'm in the minority and I never listen to music on the move and have no intention of ever owning a mobile device. I also believe he was more interested in making money than giving people what they want.

3) Listening to a CD on my Macbook Pro through i tunes compared to my CD player is like removing all the flavour and colour from a delicious morsel of food. Is it i tunes doing this or just vastly inferior components? Isn't this the kind of set up a lot of people have these days?

4) I guess I'm just a pompous a$$.
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Aural Addict » 21 Mar 2012 13:34

Spectre wrote:
Aural Addict wrote:Steve jobs was an audiophile, but knew what the public wanted and gave that to them. How is that odd to believe? He didn't come up with the iPod. He also supported lossless codecs, but didn't offer them through the iTunes store because of storage space. Remember Beta vs VHS?


1) As a member of the public I never wanted low such a low quality audio codec to become widely acceptable, some older classical recordings are only available as downloads, its barely listenable. Only this morning listening to BBC radio 3 the announcer actually apologized for the compressed quality of the music he'd just played.

2) I realize I'm in the minority and I never listen to music on the move and have no intention of ever owning a mobile device. I also believe he was more interested in making money than giving people what they want.

3) Listening to a CD on my Macbook Pro through i tunes compared to my CD player is like removing all the flavour and colour from a delicious morsel of food. Is it i tunes doing this or just vastly inferior components? Isn't this the kind of set up a lot of people have these days?

4) I guess I'm just a pompous a$$.


1) it isn't the 1st time this has happened - minidisc, cassette, 8 track

2) giving people what they want and wanting to make money are one in the same when it comes to consumer electronics

3). Inferior components. It gets better if you use better programs than iTunes, rip lossless, and use good external equipment...

4) I am as well, just with a slightly different perspective...
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Spectre » 22 Mar 2012 19:16

Okay I can respect that. :)

I suppose what upsets me is the fact I work as a cameraman and have see significant improvements in both picture technology and image capture (I currently use Red One camera) you can get fantastic pictures from most consumer cameras these days. I really don't miss shooting either on film or tape so I'm not hankering for the past, I'd just like to see audio keep pace and gain the same wider acceptance in terms of quality. Audio seems like the Cinderella but in film making its half the story.
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Re: Steve Jobs

Postby Werner » 23 Mar 2012 07:49

I understand your feelings. Even exactly (my previous company was involved in some of the related A**I stuff, long before Red).

But you can't compare. In video/film technical improvements are easily seen by just about anyone. And these improvements are perceived as important, because one has to sit down in order to watch a movie. This is not so with audio/music. People don't have the time/opportunity to sit down and listen to records. Heck, in many countries/cultures people hardly live at home, so music consumption is relegated by default to on-the-move.

What happened to audio was inevitable. Hifi was a niche hobby. Then it grew to a mass phenomenon (70s) simply because back then it was the most conspicuous bragging-rights technology consumers could buy *and* people had a bit of time to spend with it. Both factors quickly disappeared, and hifi is shrinking back to its natural state of niche hobby.

I myself hardly have time for serious music listening, so I am very glad that the iPod in my car and iTunes in my office at least gives me some music.
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