Wood Glue / PVA Glue (Merged Thread)

[kalypso]

I've even tried playing the pva after peeling.....it don't work

It doesn't work because it's a negative.

Here is an example of how to make a woodglue LP, working relatively normal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDmu594fM88

regards, kalypso

[1200y3]

I have had great results using the glue technique, but there are drawbacks.

If the glue dries too long, then the stiffer glue may be difficult to remove if it is too thin.
Thicker glue will not be as effective as thinner glue, and thinner layers may be difficult to remove.
If using tape to remove the residue, certain tapes will leave adhesive glue attached to the record, then alcohol/microfiber or alcohol/Kieth Monks type vacuuming is needed.
If expecting to do alot of albums, it will cost. And to be sure of problem free use, a thick outside layer of Titebond II is needed, and it is costly.

I really like the Reg Williamson Elvenol technique, but it seems to be ipossible to find. But if someone could find the viscosity or the Dow Corning part number, instructions are readily available in the LP Is Back publication. I was able to thin this glue out and really get alot of use at a low cost.

[megatrends]

I wish I had the time to do all of my records with it.

It does work though, it really does.

[k12pfc]

I just bought 30 odd albums all had been stored in quite damp conditions, while I will get around to the glue method, for instant results I washed them one at a time in tepid mildly soapy water with a new soft baby sponge, these albums were unplayable but now, they look mint and play totally fine, very impressive results, no need for all these chemicals many people use. My method was wash in the soapy water (fairy liquid), rinse under tap, lay on clean kitchen roll, gently pat dry, then stand them vertical on top of clothes (so no direct contact) on a warm radiator for 5 mins or so. Brilliant.

[gazatthebop]

doesn't the glue warp the vinyl when it dries, especially thin lp's?

[MonkeyBoy]

doesn't the glue warp the vinyl when it dries, especially thin lp's?

No. The glue dries nicely without putting any real stress on the record. Just make sure you use the right kind of glue!

[1200y3]

Titebond II is the only glue that remains flexible and pliable after time, to allow for a clean peel. Most others require a lot of tape to peel off (but they may be actually better at cleaning).

FWIW, Du Pont Elvanol is easily available, and the instructions to mix it up are available, but the viscosity rating is unknown. I am sure the cost is much better than Titebond II, and you wouldn't waste a good glue. Elvanol was for a long time sold by Old Colony Sound.

[hotpants16]

hello,

would anyone happen to know the origen of this concept?
is it noticeably better or cheaper than traditional methods?

cheers!

16

[Pitini]

I have just seen a demo of a vinyl record being cleaned with a layer of pvc wood glue. The guy smeared it over the whole surface, let it set, then pulled it off with all the dirt in the grooves coming with it.

Is this a joke or would it work?

Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gyvipBs6Vs

[JaS]

If you stick 'wood glue' into the search box you'll find loads of threads discussing PVA and records. Apparently it can work very well

Regards,
JaS

[zwhita]

Lots of threads about this, but I just wanted to chime in that this isn't a fix-all either. I've had numerous LP's that had just as much crackle and pop after the glue treatment as before. And one thing I don't see alot of mention on glue cleaning is after you pull the mold off, the vinyl will usually have alot of static electricity stored. You should try and discharge it however possible before playing, as static electricity can damage the electronics in your turntable.

I use Titebond II, btw, and it often has good results. I've never ruined a single record, although a few times I've had to redo the glue treatment due to the mold breaking up while pulling because it was too thin, leaving slivers of glue stuck in individual grooves.

[satanfriendly]

I had a demo of this by another VE member and I have to admit despite my initial sceptical thoughts I was actually very impressed with the results.

My old copy of ABC Lexicaon of Love has never looked and played so well for years.

[Tommyboy65]

It works very well. I use Titebond II and have never had an issue with it. As another member posted, it will not fix a record that is already damaged. After wood gluing an LP, I rinse it with ultra pure water on my VPI RCM to get rid of any static discharge.

I have used numerous vinyl cleaners over the years and I find that the wood glue method is the best way to go. If a record is still noisy after wood gluing it, then you might as well store it away.

[kalypso]

I have got good results with this method, too.

Since "Titebond" is not available in germany, i tried different brands and was most satisfied with "UHU Holzleim Original".

regards, kalypso