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Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 12 Sep 2019 20:46
by mrjaffa
Tried some different cleaning methods. Don’t have the budget for a machine, not after I just forked out for the Rega P3.

And the cracklings on some records (relatively new ones too) is making me turn off.

I bought some alcohol, the recommended stuff and distilled water. 80/20 mix. Bought a paint pad I’d seen people mention. Rinse off with distilled water. Dry with micro fibre towel.

Also cleaning the stylus and using carbon fibre brush.

And wait..... I just noticed when I lifted the needle on a particularly crackly record, it continued to crackle for about 2 seconds whilst the needle was raised!

Huh!??

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 12 Sep 2019 21:05
by pivot
mrjaffa wrote:
12 Sep 2019 20:46
..... I just noticed when I lifted the needle on a particularly crackly record, it continued to crackle for about 2 seconds whilst the needle was raised!......
Possibly a poor/bad connection. Try cleaning your phono plugs with Deoxit.

Could be static on the record. Rubbing the LP with a cloth till dry could build up static charge. A conductive carbon fiber brush used just before play could ground the static.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 12 Sep 2019 21:34
by Jampot90
Don't dry by wiping / rubbing. After rinsing (preferably in distilled water but better under a running tap than not at all) by all means lay carefully on a clean dry microfibre cloth to 'blot' the worst off both sides and then air dry in a suitable rack. A dish drainer if nothing else is available.

When funds permit invest in a Knosti cleaning system from around £40 but I recommend 2 tanks like here -

https://mcru.co.uk/product/knosti-disco ... cba1185463

Jim

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 00:44
by eddie edirol
YOu definitely need a vacuum, but it really sounds like youre building up alot of static.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 13 Sep 2019 08:22
by vanakaru
Sound like your TT builds up static somehow. Maybe the mat needs to be off some other material. Or your room is extremely dry. When you lift the record off do you hear sparkly sound?

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 13:03
by mrjaffa
Thanks for the replies guys.

I tried washing the record again but this time not drying with a cloth. Let it dry overnight. Unfortunately no improvement.

I do use a carbon fibre brush before playing.

I do sometimes hear static when I remove the record.

Maybe I should test to see how much static there is using some tissue paper.

I could definitely invest in the Knotsi machine, I didn’t want to pay hundreds for a machine but under £100 is fine. But then maybe the results wouldn’t be that much better than my current cleaning method. If my method is removing the dirt and dust, and the problem is static, I might be better getting an anti static gun.

I just want to get to a point where the money I spend on my hobby is for vinyl, not always the equipment.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 17:06
by vanakaru
There is a recommendation to use carbon fibre brush from out to in towards the spindle and finish on the label and a bit over the metal spindle. If you TT has metal spindle and it is grounded it'll dissipate the static buildup off the brush.
What kind of mat you have on the TT?

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 14 Sep 2019 20:31
by mrjaffa
Just what came with the Rega P3. Wool mat I believe.

Ive seen videos suggesting to do that with the brush.

I’ve just put the record up to a piece of tissue and there didn’t seem to be much static. Used the brush and tested again and there was significant movement from the tissue! Tried using the brush like you said too. I’ve just rinsed the record again and tested again and less movement on the tissue. Just waiting for the record to dry to play again.

Currently listening to a different record, Beach Boys Pet Sounds and barely any noise even during the very quiet parts and between tracks.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 15 Sep 2019 16:20
by Mrs Ritchie Valens
Hmmm, interesting. My matt that came with my audiotechnica is a felt one.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 28 Sep 2019 01:18
by sturgus
Take a used dryer sheet and put under your felt mat. It works for me.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 28 Sep 2019 02:18
by aardvarkash10
Simple - play the vinyl wet. If the crackling stops completely, its probably actual static electricity. If crackling reduces, its still stuff in the grooves. This will clear over time if you keep wet playing the record. Mine took three or four passes to come right.

I'm just using cheap, clear window cleaning spray. No sign of it damaging the vinyl or the stylus. Dont drown it, just a mist over the playing surface.

If it doesn't work for you, the most your out is a cupplaquid yeah?

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 28 Sep 2019 09:14
by vanakaru
sturgus wrote:
28 Sep 2019 01:18
Take a used dryer sheet and put under your felt mat. It works for me.
Wouldn't it make all your records smell like laundry?

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 30 Sep 2019 01:11
by sturgus
That's why you get a used one.

Re: Disheartened by the crackling :-(

Posted: 15 Oct 2019 13:06
by PioneerFan
This thread underscores just how may variables there are in vinyl and the cleaning process, not to mention variables in atmospheric conditions, environmental, and the original condition of the record itself. Not to mention the materials used to press the vinyl. I seem to recall reading somewhere that there was a phase where they went to pressing using recycled vinyl materials, and that caused poor sounding records. But I do have the feeling that the "crackle" many people here is, in fact, from scratches. You can do all the cleaning in the world, and nothing is going to mitigate such a condition.