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Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 17 Jul 2017 01:45
by ToolBee
update:
New computer has been installed, and will not be recording. As the good old PCI-slot is being phased out and my new pc is lacking one also.
However I decided my trusty 2001 P4, with PCI, in which the card was installed at first, will be put to use for this purpose only. As it runs XP it is not hooked up to any network.

Luckily I also purchaased an S.M.S.L. Sanskrit DAC. Pure for listenig of course. But with what pleasure! Over SPDIF optical with its own power supply (which is a subject to future upgrade..). Keeping the pc-buzz out as much as possible. It does run over USB, audio only, no power issues, but I choose to keep my pc and audio set electrically separated. Both systems have their own surge-protected line conditioners. ;)

I can really recommend these tiny chi-fi boxes. Especially for that price. Bought mine for 100 euros, all new and with warranty. From a nice fellow too.

Will update on how/if the old system comes back online and performs with my old Onkyo receiver attached... And find out how (bad) my old Kenwood Midiset recordplayer souds.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 17 Jul 2017 02:14
by ripblade
lini wrote:rb: Which cards have you tried in combination with DirectSound? Because as far as I remember not all cards were affected/limited. And in some cases it also was a question of the software configration. For example, in case of some Envy24-based cards one had to disable Sensaura.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
I wasn't aware of that, lini. When I explored the subject, I was using an MAudio Audiophile 2496, one of the early ones . I had an SB Audigy card already but as I recall it didn't support 24/96 recording even though it could play it. I assumed it was a hardware limitation but in retrospect, the difference might've been solely due to the API the card was limited to as the Audigy didn't include ASIO drivers.

This is going back quite a few years and might not even be relevant today.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 17 Jul 2017 02:20
by ToolBee
ripblade wrote: This is going back quite a few years and might not even be relevant today.
M-Audio 2496 Audiophile! That IS the card I was using, happily, until my workstation died on me! Ahead of planning, as usual...

It does indeed outperfom anything with SB-logo on it. For us audiophiles that is. Gamers look elsewhere...

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 24 Nov 2017 12:06
by turntabletechniques
The M-Audio was the classic budget PCI soundcard of the time and they later produced a 192 'audiophile' version for those that wanted the higher sample rates... I installed a couple into PC's for clients back in early 2000's and one is still going strong today whilst the other only upgraded 10 years later... Be interested to see how their new M-Audio Super DAC performs via USB.

If you are happy to consider old/discontinued models, I can recommend the Alesis IO firewire for performance/versatility, though you have to be aware of some well known potential faults. My IO26 model has 8 line inputs and so can transfer 4 x turntables at a time.
In addition it even has a built-in phono stage which not too many interfaces had. I don't really use that myself though, as prefer my Graham Slee into one of the line inserts. Yes, with the inserts you can even bypass the mic/line pre-amp for cleanest signal path and gain has never yet been a problem - peaking up into the top 2 bits of the digital signal range with a wide range of records...

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 26 Nov 2017 13:08
by Werner

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 17 Jul 2018 15:37
by mkoerner
Currently one of the better affordable choices is the Soundblaster X-Fi HD USB. The internal Phono should be ignored for most purposes (although quite usable for measurements like crosstalk, Azimuth etc). If you have ground problems and/or want to improve the S/N Ratio a bit, you might consider to add an ifi iDefender as Powersupply and groundbreaker/isolator.

Mike

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 04 Nov 2018 21:04
by mataugust
Currently using Terratec DMX6Fire with good results, though I haven't tried the built in riaa
http://www.terratec.net/media/filer_public/10546xl.jpg

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 23 Nov 2018 19:47
by bikergeek
I've been using an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 since the early 2000s. It's been in 3 separate computers. Unfortunately it looks like motherboards with regular PCI slots are on their way out at this point. (If you're lucky you get one PCI slot and the rest are PCIe of various flavors.) I just upgraded my main desktop PC, so I'm either going to have to keep my old one alive just to support the sound card, or I'm going to have to go with one of the rather spendy solutions that's been posted in this thread.

The nice part about the 2496 was that it was excellent value for money--cost me just over $100 in the early 2000s, IIRC, and look at the use I've gotten out of it. Nothing seems to have come along with its feature set and price point since. I would love a PCIe version of this card but no such thing appears to exist. :(

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 27 Nov 2018 13:21
by Dimal
What about the "M-Audio M-Track 2X2"?

Seems like a decent enough unit and not expensive... :-)

Mal.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 03 Mar 2019 15:08
by Tweak-O-Matic
I've been "ripping" vinyl for years and have a pretty good established process for making excellent sounding hi-res digital versions of vinyl.

As far as interfaces I've used a Motu 896 Mk3 Hybrid with very good results. It is pretty much overkill as far as the number of inputs but I sometimes rip 4 channel reel-to-reel tapes as well. It finally gave up after many years and is off for repairs at the moment.

In the meantime I'm using the pretty reasonably priced Behringer UMC404HD which is supposed to have really good DAC's. The only drawback is that the level input pots on the Behringer aren't incremental, that is, when you need to adjust the input level (depending on the level of the record), they are not "tactile" in 1 dB increments as they are on the Motu. On the Motu it makes it easy to set the same input level on right and left channel plus the display on the Motu indicates the input gain as you tweak it.
On the Behringer I have to use a test tone from a test record to set both channels equal by looking at the VU-meters in the recording software. Makes it cumbersome as generally the setting for an LP input level is too "hot" for a 45 rpm 12" single.

Next interface will probably be the Motu Ultralite mk4.

http://motu.com/products/motuaudio/896mk3
https://www.musictribe.com/Categories/B ... HD/p/P0BK1
http://motu.com/products/proaudio/ultralite-mk4

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 01:39
by music_mota_beer
Alpha Design Labs by Furutech ADL GT40 USB DAC.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 18:35
by Tweak-O-Matic
Forgot to mention that I rip at 192 kHz 32-bit(float) so the interface has to support that.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 09 Apr 2019 04:48
by 13hm13
mataugust wrote:
04 Nov 2018 21:04
Currently using Terratec DMX6Fire with good results, though I haven't tried the built in riaa
http://www.terratec.net/media/filer_public/10546xl.jpg
There's a YouTube German vlogger (Schlipperschlopper) that posts some amazing vinyl rips (using mostly vintage 1960s-70s gear, incl. carts, and USSR 'tables, etc.). I believe he noted using and older Terrratec (from 2002). It may be the same DMX6Fire.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 09 Apr 2019 04:54
by 13hm13
bikergeek wrote:
23 Nov 2018 19:47
I've been using an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 since the early 2000s. It's been in 3 separate computers. Unfortunately it looks like motherboards with regular PCI slots are on their way out at this point. (If you're lucky you get one PCI slot and the rest are PCIe of various flavors.) I just upgraded my main desktop PC, so I'm either going to have to keep my old one alive just to support the sound card, or I'm going to have to go with one of the rather spendy solutions that's been posted in this thread.

The nice part about the 2496 was that it was excellent value for money--cost me just over $100 in the early 2000s, IIRC, and look at the use I've gotten out of it. Nothing seems to have come along with its feature set and price point since. I would love a PCIe version of this card but no such thing appears to exist. :(
I owned the M-Audio 2496 for several years. It was very good and economical, to boot. I replaced it with an Asus Xonar PCIe, and that was an important and worthwhile upgrade.

Re: Audio interface manufacturers / products

Posted: 05 May 2019 18:00
by zlartibartfast
Though not specifically an audio interface, the Phono Box DS2 USB
https://www.project-audio.com/en/produc ... x-ds2-usb/
is worth adding here. I had been using an M-Audio Duo interface and a Tisbury Domino phono stage, but the Duo lacks support for anything newer than Windows XP/Snow Leopard, so time for a replacement.

The Phono box does everything and better. It's a better ADC, and a better phono stage. It has 2 phono inputs, each with separate parameters, plus a line level input. In addition to it's USB output, there is a TOSLINK port plus analog RCA output.