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German vinyl good or bad?

Postby nesster97 » 11 Aug 2012 15:27

I thought i would do a thread on german vinyl now. i personaly think they have the greatest sound quality. I happend to come across the limited edition from 2004 of the who sell out it sounded good but ive never heard the american. But a couple of weeks ago i came across an original copy of the beach boys party, probably the greatest sound i have ever heard the bass is so deep and it just has such a warm felling to it .
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby danieldust » 11 Aug 2012 17:43

I have a fair amount of German vinyl, and it's generally very good quality. Popular consensus seems to agree as well.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby Catcher10 » 11 Aug 2012 18:09

I have many German prints of Scorpions early albums...for the style of music the SQ is exceptional. I also have a German copy of ELP-Tarkus, I have no desire to own another version...its excellent too.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby nesster97 » 11 Aug 2012 18:57

i kinda thought everyone was into them. Are german pressings worth alot?
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby newdreams » 11 Aug 2012 19:39

Back in the late 70s/early 80s, I rated German pressings as up there close to Japanese.

1. Japanese
2. German
3. UK
4. Canadian or US

and as I live in Canada, I had to pay extra for imports of albums I wanted really good copies of. Much of the interesting stuff like prog rock didn't get released in Canada at the time so imports were a necessity.

I remember I couldn't afford the 3-LP Japanese pressing of Santana's "Lotus" at around $75, so I wound up with a very nice German one. I don't think this was ever released on Canadian vinyl.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby fishcane » 12 Aug 2012 00:18

Love My German Sgt Pepper!!

Also, I have a few Dire Straits albums that are German pressed and they too sound excellent
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby MonkeyBoy » 12 Aug 2012 01:09

I bought around half the albums I own when I was stationed in Germany years ago. I have no complaints.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby danieldust » 12 Aug 2012 02:38

nesster97 wrote:Are german pressings worth alot?


I think it depends on the artist and label in question. I don't think they have quite the reputation that Japanese pressings do, so not too many collectors actively seek out German pressings of any given record. The big exception would be for German artists/bands/labels. In those cases, the German pressings are usually going to be considered more desirable.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby KentT » 12 Aug 2012 14:45

I as a rule love German record pressing a lot. Their pressings tend to have great quiet surfaces, impeccable quality control, and superb mastering. I like better UK made vinyl as well, especially pre 1980 era. Japanese pressings are for me up there but mastering to some ears can be less than ideal. I am OK with most of their mastering choices.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby george2210 » 12 Aug 2012 20:46

I like original UK and US pressings the most (from UK and US artists).

Secondly i like Japanese pressings, they are mostly mind and the vinyl is
great.

Dutch and German pressings are mostly good, but not the top for me.

This is for 60's and 70's pressings, after that most pressings are sounding bad to my ears.

In mine opinion it's very important, in most cases, to have an original early matrix pressing from the country that the artist is coming from.
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby nesster97 » 13 Aug 2012 02:10

true im not a big fan of 80s pressings. But ive never heard japan pressings there hard ti find in canada or if you wanna pay high prices. but im noticing alot of uk pressings (not beatles or stones) but alot of the who,donovan the beach boys etc they sound almost as good as german in my opinion
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby jake » 13 Aug 2012 12:22

The only catch with German quality, some of the quietest pressings around, is their propensity to issue rare titles in re-channeled stereo. With Japan pressings , if you get an old Ben Webster title in stereo you know that's true stereo. Germany re-issues fake stereos, so watch your step with recordings from 1958-1964. Every time I forget this for a moment I end up with an EBay "Bargain".
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby Martin_S791 » 15 Aug 2012 14:43

German vinyl quality is excellent.
Usually though the record company would send a copy of the master tape to Germany to be mastered to vinyl. Sometimes this would be a second or third, or worse generation tape.
American vinyl of the time - the late '60's and '70s was generally crap. But usually mastered from the first generation tapes. So it was a toss up, what you lost on the generations, you made up for by getting on better vinyl.

Where you really get lucky is where the US record company sent the US metal matrix masters to Germany to be pressed locally. That, quite frankly is as good as it gets, period.
A couple of examples are;
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main Street
Slow Train Coming (Dutch vinyl)
Some Girls
Tattoo You
and most of Bob Dylans Columbia stuff. If you look carefully.

All these records though were also mastered locally using tape copies and local engineers. So it's not so easy - you gotta' know your matrix numbers!!!

But you get a copy of "Exile" mastered at Artisan in California, or Sticky Fingers, mastered by Bob Sax at The Mastering Lab, pressed to nice thick, high quality german vinyl, you might not know why, but you know, you feel you got something special. Cos it just sounds better than any other you've ever heard.
Whoopeeee!!! :-)

However, all these
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Re: German vinyl good or bad?

Postby jake » 15 Aug 2012 15:30

German Exile sounds like a great idea, must locate...
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