Global Warming: United Nations Meeting In Copenhagen

[Bigears]

Not much of a surprise to learn that nothing meaningful has come from the (failed) negotiations. Disappointing but unsurprising with governments more predictably concerned with protecting commercial interests than "saving the planet". The real differences will stem from unilateral responses to things like flood risk, renewables and energy security as well as (I can hear the can of worms opening) immigration control, which does matter in an overcrowded island like blighty. Thats not a racist statement (nor was it intended so) its fact.

The losers will of course be third world countries and those low lying communities (Maldives) which will essentially be left to fend for themselves.

The talks were a complete and utter sham.

[Stone]

Probably not, but they will put an optional second earth in the trunk to satisfy demanding customers...

What's all the fuss then? btw...I was kidding about the Shelby (though it remains a wet dream car). For the record I'm part of the concerned... have and will continue to, change much of my behaviour.

Cheers,

David

[EdAInWestOC]

Not much of a surprise to learn that nothing meaningful has come from the (failed) negotiations. Disappointing but unsurprising with governments more predictably concerned with protecting commercial interests than "saving the planet". The real differences will stem from unilateral responses to things like flood risk, renewables and energy security as well as (I can hear the can of worms opening) immigration control, which does matter in an overcrowded island like blighty. Thats not a racist statement (nor was it intended so) its fact.

The losers will of course be third world countries and those low lying communities (Maldives) which will essentially be left to fend for themselves.

The talks were a complete and utter sham.

BE,
Up until this point, the people that were losing their homes due to the rising of the ocean's water levels were poor third world nations. As soon as Global Warming makes an obvious impact on some major power, then it will be real and something will have to be done about it.

There are hundreds of graves of dead American, British, Australian and other soldiers killed in WWII on various Pacific islands that are in danger of being covered by the rising ocean. Nothing is being done.

All low lying coastal areas will be effected. Florida in the US is particularly vunerable and until someplace like that feels the results of apathy it will remain largely ignored or just given mouth service.

Ed

[TNTTNT]

I have just been reading an article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas?CMP=AFCYAH

In summary it says China, and to a lesser extent India, blocked any sort of deal. It seems to be written by some one in the deal room.

I don't know why the developed countries just don't invest in emmisions reductions; work out how much extra this forces their costs up, and slap a import tax of this same amount on imported goods from non co-operating countries.

I know it wouldn't work now, due to world recession. Trade barriers are the last thing you need in times of low demand. I mean when the world is on an even keel again, although I am also aware the polluting countries hold most of the dollars for financing at the moment.

[applewoi]

In summary it says China, and to a lesser extent India, blocked any sort of deal. It seems to be written by some one in the deal room.

It´s not only these two. Basically every oil-produc..eehh..exploiting country is just plain embarrassed by any development causing to consume less petrol than before. Saudi Arabia sent their economy and oil business minister to try to prevent anything which could be harmful to their oil exploiting business in the future.
Even they should know by know that somewhere is an end to natural resources and maybe then it is far too late to save anything from being extinct.

Including ourselves.

Amen.