Rega R.I.P.6…… to Lazarus6 !

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Rega R.I.P.6…… to Lazarus6 !

Post by Drewan77 » 15 Aug 2015 16:20

My main turntable used to be an RP6…..
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When I saw the recent Vinyl Engine post from endrik35 in Manilla (My First Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!) I decided I had to do something similar but I wanted the plinth completely isolated from the Rega cover.

When I originally contacted Michael Lim, he told me that the ‘RP8-RP10’ type plinth that endrik35 showed was in fact a thin 2.5mm shim on top of his standard 18mm clear rectangular acrylic plinth. I then asked if he could use the same CNC programme to cut the 18mm material down as well. Anyone who has purchased from Michael previously will know what a helpful, customer friendly man he is so he said he would check and come back to me.

A few weeks later he showed me a black prototype that he was testing which looked to be exactly what I wanted so I ordered the orange bonded plinth c/w upper and lower braces in ‘brushed’ finish, mounting feet, the clear outer frame plus the motor isolation kit.

My original RP6 was only using the plinth, bearing housing and glass platter as I had changed everything else over time. I had borrowed an acrylic platter some time ago and used it for over a week but felt it took a little transient attack away from my music, hence I have kept the glass platter.

- Audiomods Series V arm
- GT Reference subplatter & bearing
- Michael Lim double pulley
- New belts
- Funk platter mat with leather bonded addition plus a thin SRM-Tech soft pad between this and the glass

….Michael Lim motor isolation
….Michael Lim plinths & feet

Within a few days of ordering, Michael confirmed despatch and four days later the motor isolation base arrived. I decided to fit this to the RP6 whilst awaiting the new plinth, just so I could evaluate this separately:

1. Motor isolation base

Very easy to fit, following Michaels’ detailed instructions. What surprised me during removal was the simple sticky pad holding the motor to the Rega MDF plinth which was easily prised apart with a screwdriver. The RP6 has given me a lot of pleasure in its’ former state so I am impressed that something so basic could sound so good.

Whilst I was at it, I extended the cables between the motor and PCB board so this could be moved away from the turntable itself (in the housing adaptor supplied as part of the kit).

Once the motor isolation kit was in place, there was an immediately noticeable tightening and greater clarity to the lowest bass notes and that has persisted with every LP played since fitting this. Everything is also more sharply positioned within the soundstage - I was not expecting for this to improve quite so dramatically with vinyl playback. Upgrading the arm on my turntable and then adding a new sub platter and Lims’ double pulley & belts were previously the most positive changes I had made but isolating the motor had taken things a lot further (I play my system every day when at home and I know the sound signature intimately so this is no understatement). Instrument and performer positioning hung within a more believable 3D soundstage on appropriately mastered recordings and this is very addictive to listen to.

I will go so far as saying that in my opinion, isolating a Rega motor with Michael Lims’ isolation base is a must-do upgrade that every owner should consider. I am pleased that I had several days to hear the impact this had made before changing the plinth too.
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2. The Plinths
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This arrived just over a week after despatch, very well protected and packaged. To ensure maximum rigidity, Michael had even fitted the piece of 5mm ’surplus’ acrylic between the inner and outer plinths - very considerate and professional (It looks like a piece of curvy-funky acrylic art and I cannot bring myself to throw it away !)

The orange 2.5mm top piece had been bonded by Michael as we had agreed using a special adhesive to ensure no air gap or potential for flexing. I bonded the braces myself with a clear adhesive (spread carefully and thinly) and screwed the bearing housing mounting feet, the allen-key brace screws and then the arm whilst the glue was still pliable so both braces are very securely attached.

During this process, I took great care to achieve the same 221.5mm pivot-spindle distance that my Mint arc protractor is designed for. I also had to align the outer frame and cover to ensure that the arm micrometer fitted exactly in the same place as previously (as I have a small transparent ‘turret’ glued to the cover above a circular hole in the top of the lid).

The rest of the turntable assembly followed easily (I have modified a few Regas’ in my time) and I checked with both spirit level and bubble level that the plinth, arm and platter were all exactly parallel. They were, first time. The moment of truth came when I clipped the AT150ANV cartridge stylus back in (removed during assembly) and checked alignment with the protractor. Even under 30x magnification, it fell exactly on the arc so no adjustment was needed, the pay-back for being precise in mounting the arm & a big time-saver.

3. The outer plinth

My music room is quite cluttered, I probably don’t dust/vacuum often enough and my wife refuses to enter ! Also, the carpet seems to generate a lot of wool fibres so playback with the lid closed is very important to me, especially as every record is RCM cleaned. I already mentioned the 5mm spacer - this is the gap between both plinths and as the motor is now isolated this gap ensures that the closed cover is isolated from the platter/arm as well.

Rather than additional heavy looking feet for the outer plinth as this is just a support platform for the cover, I have made some tapered transparent acrylic feet of the correct height and these are tapped and screwed to the three M6 threads fitted to the frame underside.

Everything is now completed and IMO it’s a fabulous looking piece of kit. Even my wife who has ‘tolerated’ 35 years of various bits of hi-fi in the living room expressed her first ever positive opinion, going as far as saying it is a real pity that this has to stay in my man-music cave - praise indeed !
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As I write this, I have played half-dozen-or so LPs and am extremely happy. The tightness to the bass I mentioned previously is still there and the only way I can think to describe the finished article is that bass is now no longer congested and each instrument or note seems to be independent to everything else, both tonally and within the soundstage. Previously vinyl and digital sources in my system sounded extremely close but now the sense of openness, ‘air’ and soundstage imaging with vinyl has taken quite a leap ahead, to say nothing of that more tuneful, snappier bass !

Exactly what I wanted - like Lazarus, my Rega is reborn :D

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Post by puddlesplasher » 17 Aug 2015 09:24

That looks excellent. I could go for one of those but in black.

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Post by readargos » 17 Aug 2015 22:31

Thanks for sharing. It's a good-looking 'table. I'm also partial to the orange.

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Post by james73_2008 » 18 Aug 2015 22:29

That isn't a GT Reference subplatter, as the GT Ref SP has the 3 black Delrin
supports on it. Nice though, I really like those feet.


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Post by Drewan77 » 19 Aug 2015 06:28

james73_2008 wrote:That isn't a GT Reference subplatter, as the GT Ref SP has the 3 black Delrin
supports on it. Nice though, I really like those feet.


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Strange, the RP6 Reference subplatter is what I ordered and this is what I got. See the description and three images in the centre of the page link which match the item I am using http://groovetracer.com/RP6Subplatter.htm

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » 19 Aug 2015 10:11

Yep, that's the RP6 Reference Subplatter, same one as I have. Maybe James is talking about the non-RP6 version?

Nice table BTW, I'd love one in purple!

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Post by james73_2008 » 19 Aug 2015 22:38

Ah, the RP6 Reference Subplatter. #-o Yes, I was thinking of the one I have on my Planar 3.


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Post by readargos » 19 Aug 2015 22:45

Why does your RP6 glass platter look so white? I don't mean the Funk Firm Acrhomat, but the sides of the platter look like white acrylic or delrin, or even the Funk Achroplat.

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Post by Drewan77 » 20 Aug 2015 06:09

readargos wrote:Why does your RP6 glass platter look so white? I don't mean the Funk Firm Acrhomat, but the sides of the platter look like white acrylic or delrin, or even the Funk Achroplat.
I re-sprayed the edges of the platter to match the white leather top mat

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Post by readargos » 20 Aug 2015 16:53

It's a nice touch.

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Post by wolfgang IV » 23 Aug 2015 20:57

That looks stunning. Can I ask how much it cost?

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Post by Drewan77 » 24 Aug 2015 06:54

wolfgang IV wrote:That looks stunning. Can I ask how much it cost?
You can email Michael Lim here: lpturntables@gmail.com

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Post by julianv » 22 Jan 2016 13:48

Hi, I enjoyed reading your post. The new Lazarus6 looks very good. I recently upgraded my P3 with Michael's isolation base, double pulley and adjustable aluminium feet. I had previously upgraded to the 24v motor and PSU. I noticed that you have extended the cables from the outboard PCB which I would like to do. My PCB needs to live in a cabinet below the turntable which will look cleaner. I can just about handle a soldering handle but I am not an expert. I have a few questions based on your experience -

1. The existing cables from the motor are very small and delicate and I feel that I would prefer to extend the cables with a slightly heavier gauge strand e.g. lighting cable. I intend to keep the existing motor cables in place and take the heavier gauge cable back to the PCB.
Is this OK? Not sure whether there may be a slight change in impedance and whether this matters etc?....

2. I would also like to have a plug between the new connection so I can easily handle/remove the motor without worrying about the PCB. Will a plug adversely affect the power supply?

3. If a plug is OK, are there any particular plugs to go for?

Many thanks.

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Post by Drewan77 » 22 Jan 2016 21:32

I extended the leads with some that was slightly thicker than the original Rega cable and this has had no negative impact. I can't see why a plug/socket arrangement would do any harm.

Rega use Kycon 4 pin connectors - you would need an in-line plug & a matching socket affixed at one end. Personally, I have just made a much longer fixed cable between the PCB housing & motor & if the motor needs handling/moving, this is easy to do.

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Post by Legrace » 24 Jan 2016 03:17

About the isolation base upgrade. Tempted to do this one but am still not yet sold on the benefits. :? In retrospect, do you still recommend? What benefit can I expect to gain with my RP6?

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