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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby rabor » 22 Mar 2012 12:54

I'd suggest searching locally for: ISO 7380, DIN 7991, WS 9335, DIN 912 or DIN 7984

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 22 Mar 2012 13:37

watercourse wrote:Rolf,
You couldn't find these parts at a hardware store?


Not yet.....
The combo of M3 and lenght of 50mm seems to be an odd combo. :?

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 22 Mar 2012 13:41

brassnwood wrote:Try these Rolf :D
http://www.wlcooke.co.uk/Cat/product_in ... s_id=29381
Minimum purchase 10 - must still be worth it @ less than £5 :wink:

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Perfect!
They don't ship to Norway from the webshop.
I sent an e-mail begging them to do so, hope they do.. :lol:

Pozi/philips head and just the right looks 8)

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 22 Mar 2012 13:49

rabor wrote:I'd suggest searching locally for: ISO 7380, DIN 7991, WS 9335, DIN 912 or DIN 7984

Good luck.


Thanks

DIN 7991 looks nice :)
No google hits in Norwegian webshops though..

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby watercourse » 22 Mar 2012 14:49

Rolf,
If you can't find them, or if you have to buy more than you need, I can send you a few.

I thought finding metric in the US was difficult, I guess we are more progressive than I knew!

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 23 Mar 2012 18:07

watercourse wrote:Rolf,
If you can't find them, or if you have to buy more than you need, I can send you a few.

I thought finding metric in the US was difficult, I guess we are more progressive than I knew!

Wilson


Thanks Wilson!

I'm told that screws are on the way already, from our common gmail friend :wink:

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 29 Mar 2012 11:46

Wingnuts and two different sizes of washers have arrived.
Excited to see if they will fit the screws on the way.... :)




Other thoughts:
- Is the Incognito rewire kit a no-brainer?

I'm afraid that the problems with tracking related to twisted cables are too common after this tweak/upgrade.
....and is it really that much of a difference on the RB700?

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby james73_2008 » 29 Mar 2012 16:44

My first Groovetracer product:

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More pics and progress reports over the weekend...


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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby watercourse » 30 Mar 2012 02:04

RoDa wrote:Wingnuts and two different sizes of washers have arrived.
Excited to see if they will fit the screws on the way.... :)




Other thoughts:
- Is the Incognito rewire kit a no-brainer?

I'm afraid that the problems with tracking related to twisted cables are too common after this tweak/upgrade.
....and is it really that much of a difference on the RB700?

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Hope the hardware all fits together well! Ask if you have questions.

Re: Incognito - I have really enjoyed the benefits of the rewire. Big difference IME. So much so that I've DIY-ed ICs from Cardas tonearm wire, so that I have the same wiring all the way from the tonearm to the amp. Very smooth but detailed, warm and balanced tone, very good ambience retrieval. Much higher resolution and better balance than stock, not to mention the increased stoutness of the wire over stock.

I'm not sure what you mean by the problem of twisted cables? If you're concerned that in doing the rewire, you might accidentally twist the cables too tightly and then affect anti-skate, I did not run into this problem. That is to say, the anti-skate settings did not change after the rewire. The Incognito kit has more than enough wire to be able to leave enough slack to avoid this, and the instructions are very helpful.

All that said, if I were to do it all over again, I'd source the materials on my own and rewire it for less than the price of the Incognito kit. But I've done it before and I'm ok with a soldering iron. What you get with the Incognito is the convenience of having everything prepared for you, which makes it nice and easy. If you choose to install the Incognito yourself, you still will need to solder on the cartridge clips.

If you're sending away to have someone else perform surgery, there are many options other than Incognito. I haven't heard any other rewire products, so I can't recommend any other, but I'm very happy with the Incognito and Cardas tonearm wire in general.
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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 30 Mar 2012 11:59

james73_2008 wrote:My first Groovetracer product:

More pics and progress reports over the weekend...

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=D> =D> =D>

Gongrats, James!

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 30 Mar 2012 12:18

watercourse wrote:Hope the hardware all fits together well! Ask if you have questions.


Thanks! Will do :)

Re: Incognito - I have really enjoyed the benefits of the rewire. Big difference IME. So much so that I've DIY-ed ICs from Cardas tonearm wire, so that I have the same wiring all the way from the tonearm to the amp. Very smooth but detailed, warm and balanced tone, very good ambience retrieval. Much higher resolution and better balance than stock, not to mention the increased stoutness of the wire over stock.


Cool. This is quite an obstacle for me, since it means a devitation from my "100% reversible" path....
But I'm on the egde of straying from that path already with the drill-through tweak, so..... :lol:


I'm not sure what you mean by the problem of twisted cables? If you're concerned that in doing the rewire, you might accidentally twist the cables too tightly and then affect anti-skate, I did not run into this problem. That is to say, the anti-skate settings did not change after the rewire. The Incognito kit has more than enough wire to be able to leave enough slack to avoid this, and the instructions are very helpful.


I've read a few stories about too tight wires on different places in the arm causing "full throttle" anti skate or similar issues.
Your experience is very helpful and settling. :wink:

All that said, if I were to do it all over again, I'd source the materials on my own and rewire it for less than the price of the Incognito kit. But I've done it before and I'm ok with a soldering iron. What you get with the Incognito is the convenience of having everything prepared for you, which makes it nice and easy. If you choose to install the Incognito yourself, you still will need to solder on the cartridge clips.


There's a unused silver set for sale in Norway for 165£ / 264$
(New 200£ + shipping + taxes)


If you're sending away to have someone else perform surgery, there are many options other than Incognito. I haven't heard any other rewire products, so I can't recommend any other, but I'm very happy with the Incognito and Cardas tonearm wire in general.


I know, the Audio Origami mods look amazing, maybe a chromed arm-tube... :shock:


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First, new feet and drill through tweak. Then we'll see.
Cannot stop, must tweak my Rega ... =P~ :lol: :lol:
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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby watercourse » 30 Mar 2012 16:43

You might also ask Laudanum on this forum - he has had much more experience rewiring with different wire types, including silver. Maybe start a different post - go for two stickies!
Silver is good stuff. Different sound than copper. I've had good experiences with both DIY solid core and stranded (Kimber) types. The main concerns with tonearm cables are how flexible the wire is (you don't want too stiff), how durable it is, and then electrical characteristics like braided shielding and low capacitance.
Also, Bacobits is quite happy with the stock wiring and he has had experience with the Incognito cables on other arms, so there may be arguments for leaving it alone. Again, the reason I rewired was due to a previous owner being too rough with removing one of the RCAs and ripping out the wiring.
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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby RoDa » 02 Apr 2012 17:26

Thanks watercourse.
I've put the rewiring project on hold, too risky and non-reversible for my taste...

But, today a shipment from Analogue Seduction arrived. Always a pleasure to deal with those guys!

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New shoes :)

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Installing these is easy as one two three!

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One down, two to go

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Before ....

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...and after :)

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They really look nice! Haven't listened since installing them half an hour ago, but I don't expect a revelation.

The P5 looks like it's floating with it's new shoes.

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Re: My first Rega upgrade - groovy baby!!

Postby brassnwood » 02 Apr 2012 20:00

It's been 3 hours Rolf since you installed the New Shoes :roll:
So, How does it sound :?
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